Working without working visa?

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1. Posted by mark1974 (Budding Member 3 posts) 13y Star this if you like it!

Hi guys,

I posted a message earlier about me being just too old for an Oz Working Visa - thanks for the replies (still looking into).

In the event that I don't get one and just pick up a travel visa, I've been advised by certain people that (and I quote) "You'll still find work no problem if you need it".

Has anyone any knowledge/experience of the type of employment where you're not asked for you visa. I'm thinking I'll probably get away with, for example, fruit picking while travelling down the gold coast, but I've no idea what trades aren't too bothered about working visas in Sydney for example.

2. Posted by Sam I Am (Admin 5588 posts) 13y Star this if you like it!

Sydney will tough since there's over a 100 000 people flying in there every year that do have a visa so why would the employer risk his business on 'hiring' illegally. You might have some luck along the coast though...

By the way, 10 years ago I would have agreed with that assumption, but there's tons of people now travelling on the WHV so the work can be tricky to find at times.

Oh, and if you do get caught, you're likely not be fined and not allowed into the country ever again....

3. Posted by sooka (Budding Member 13 posts) 13y Star this if you like it!

hi i live in canberra (way smaller than sydney) worked as a landscaper for a few years here and did some bar work here and up in Queensland . From my experiance the labour side and the bar work in australia is rife with cash work , thing is you've just got to ask around to find it . Nightclubs are one of the best places to get cash work as i do a few dj spots for some clubs and have met a heap of cash workers. Also labouring jobs are easy to find cause there's so much work on in australia especially in canberra as labourers.

anyway hope this helps


4. Posted by majito (Respected Member 442 posts) 13y Star this if you like it!

If employers get caught paying cash to legal workers its not such a big deal. If the employers get caught paying cash to illegal workers its a very big deal. The working holiday visa program works well here and as sam said there are 100,000 of them a year all legally working and paying tax in Oz. The competition for any work is quite tough mark, and by not being legal its even tougher.

Its one of those "maybe you will get work, maybe you won't". Having said that I know plenty of maybe you will get works who have worked for cash.

5. Posted by davenarey (First Time Poster 1 posts) 13y Star this if you like it!

You're a cross dressing bitch

6. Posted by TomK (Full Member 66 posts) 13y Star this if you like it!

I can only speak for in and around Sydney but there are plenty of cash jobs going! As has been said it is in the areas of labouring and bar work. You just have to ask around [hostels are agood place] to find it.

7. Posted by mark1974 (Budding Member 3 posts) 13y Star this if you like it!

Thanks for all the replies.

And by the way, I know davenarey who posted the 'cross-dressing bitch' post, and would like to vigorously deny that I neither cross-dress nor am I a 'bitch'.

Mind you, without a working visa I might have to think about becoming both for while when I get to Oz.

Boom boom.

8. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 13y Star this if you like it!

Yeah, dont knock it til you've tried it.

Quan, for example, has never looked back.

9. Posted by john7buck (Respected Member 458 posts) 13y Star this if you like it!

Not sure if you need to make money or just not spend loads of it, but a good alternative is Willing Workers on Organic Farms (WWOOF). You don't get paid, but you get food and accomodation in exchange for like 4 hours of work a day. I went for about a month and a half down there without spending a dime. You wouldn't want to do it the entire time, but I found it a great way to break up periods of getting caught in the tourism machine down there. I'm sure at some places the work sucks, but every place I went was fantastic and frankly not all that hard of work. I'd highly recommend it, especially if you don't get a WHV lined up.