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1. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

*Some content may be unsuitable for the anal-retentive*
Day One - November 2, 2005


Over the months I have made many rants in many threads on many topics. I've decided focus them into one work. Instead of creating colateral damage with my remarks, I will point a link to a daily rant in response. Feel free to rant along with (or against) me! I like heated debate! Hopefully this will alow topics to flow on freely unimpeded by tangent diatribe. If the current rant is related to the post the title will link to that post.

P.S. Thanks to BEERMAN for the word diatribe, I don't know if I am using it correctly.

P.P.S. Also this won't be daily... the name just sounds better. :p


Sam mentioned in the post "Islam and Terror" that he condemn's all terrorist attacks. I think it is too easy to say "I condemn all terrorist attacks". Because how can someone? It isn't easy. Most people find some situations where killing is the right choice. And decide it isn't a terrorist attack.

I think we all agree that a "Terroris Attack" is an attack on civilians.

Let's look at a few high profile terror attacks. World War II comes to mind. The Axis bombed, missled, gassed, shot, burnt, etc thousands of civilians. These attacks were condemned. The attacks which were not condemned or even thought twice about are the ones carried out by the Allies. Thousands of civilians were bombed, missled, shot, burnt, blown up by Ally bombers and fighters.

Every war to-date has killed civilians. It is not different today, except we are finally seeing it in our own streets. On news, in the papers. Nothing has changed, only the method of delivery.

Both sides of every coin have scratches. Terrorist attacks as a whole are not condemned because everyone has a side. Unless one is a true non-partisan.

People are against the attack on New York City, but are for the attack on Baghdad. Someone explain that one to me!

2. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Quoting Brendan

People are against the attack on New York City, but are for the attack on Baghdad. Someone explain that one to me!

Yow, where to start? There's so much....aaaggghhh, there's too much

Perspective is everything. If your dog craps in someone's yard down the street, you don't see it, smell it, or even know it happened until someone tells you. If your dog craps in your yard, it's up close and personal. The Twin Tower murders were up close and personal for Americans. Americans (among other nationalities) died. Many Americans justify the murders in Iraq because "we were attacked first". And Iraq is out of sight. Even though the media portrays, rightly or wrongly, what is happening every day, the action is still in someone elses yard. It's very sanitary when you don't see carnage up close.

From the insurrgent perspective, Westerners has been crapping in their yard for centuries. And we have. Western politics have formed the Middle East into what it is today: a cesspool of ideologies contrary to one another. Dictator after dictator, supported openly or secretly by Western capital, have oppressed the people. Interesting how, after the 1980 Iran hostage crisis, America started funneling huge sums of money and arms to our "friend in the region": Saddam Hussein. Conveniently, Hussein didn't like Iran either, so it wasn't much of a stretch to get him to declare war and attack Iran with all of his newly acquired toys.

America keeps their good friends the Saudis safe with F-16 fighters and all the oil money they can carry in a Rolls-Royce. We keep our good friends in Israel happy by giving them nuclear technology and a "homeland". Nothing like keeping an entire region of the world unstable and at each others' throats. It effectively distracts the rest of the world from the the minor, yet extremely lucrative, thievery at home.

Ancestral homelands? I don't believe in them. The Bible, Koran, Torah, etc. tell us that we have ancestral homelands? Wow, it's land grab time. I don't believe anyone is entitled to any land because of historical suffering.

The Bible tells us that after the Great Flood, Noah and clan landed on Mt Ararat. The Earth had been wiped clean. Therefore, no life except on the Hotel D'Arc. Mt Ararat is in Armenia. All life is now Armenian. I'm Armenian. I'm now declaring my intention to rule the world by ancestral rite. Those who oppose me will be crushed under the Mighty Foot of Justice.

OK, I'll stop now. This could go on ad infinitum. And yes, I do have opinions on everything, that is why I am the Queen of TP...

3. Posted by Brendan (Respected Member 1824 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Thanks for the post!

I would think of a retort, but I think we are in agreement.

4. Posted by igetlost (Full Member 89 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

i wish to rise up with my armenian brother and shed the life fluids of all those who have spawn on our lands (and in the lands we would no doubt have conquered if we had not left home to got those fish and chips after the disco when that girl said why dont you come back to my place, seriously,yeah for sex). our birth right has been taken away for too long and now our time has come( because i told her i wanted to be friends,just friends,but she started to get really clinging and said she wanted to meet my parents and that one day we'd be together for ever....) to venture forth(cause she keeps calling me on my cell) and with sword raised high destroy all that oppress us now and in the past. I wish my call sign to be the almighty (or something of equal stature) and into the hearts of my foe i will ride spear held forth( well not first obviously ,cause the first always dies straight away) and depose he who is the untrue king(or democratically elected offical) and take my true places as joint ruler(too much? because i also do clerical work) of our new(old) nation.

5. Posted by john7buck (Respected Member 458 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

For a guy whose name is beerman, you seem to still have quite a few brain cells still rolling around up there.

Is this a forum for any diatribe? I think this is a great thing. Mine is this: Brendan how does not drinking Coke solve anything? I don't eat McDonald's and drink minimal Coke because it's not good for me. I'm pretty sure those corporations will struggle on without me. If I do happen to drink a Coke, I'll still sleep at night as I'm sure they will if I don't. And let's say we organized a world-wide campaign against drinking Coke and managed to put them out of business. Great thing; but how long would it be before Tropicana orange juice, Evian water or even Inca Kola took their place (keep in mind that I realize at least one of those is probably currently owned by Coke). The American marketing machine will roll on, because as you said, people are looking at us. I think the better and more obvious target should be the tobacco and alcohol industries who are actually out to deceive the world-wide public. Coke doesn't tell anybody to do anything but "have a Coke and a smile". I'm not even quite sure why I'm defending Coke here, other than I think you're boycott is a bit futile. Could also be the fact that I've already whacked back 2 Starbucks coffees this morning. The machine keeps on rolling....

6. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Quoting john7buck

For a guy whose name is beerman, you seem to still have quite a few brain cells still rolling around up there

Thanks John, I'm touched........of course, a lot of people say I'm touched....

I'm sure most any diatribe is welcome in Off-Topic, as long as civility is the norm. No sense calling names or pointing fingers, except at the Canadians.... We have a good relationship with our friends to the North and we poke a lot of fun over the border, both North and South........

Beerman quickly scans the horizon for mutant beaver attacks and screaming Mounties.....

As far as attacking the alcohol and tobacco groups, all I can say is....whoa there pard'ner!! In the immortal paraphrased words of Chuck (Yes, I am Moses) Heston..."you can have my smokes and beer (or my favorite, rum) when you pull them out of my cold passed-out hands"...

My philosophy: Kill the Marketers. Sure, it's a bit Shakespearean, but it would be effective.

So, post away. You'll have an audience here. And remember, use humor for maximum effectiveness!!

Was that a Moose-missile flying overhead.....

7. Posted by john7buck (Respected Member 458 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Quick correction to rant:

I think the hangover made me take aim at alcohol and tobacco, sorry guys. And I'll gladly toast Canada with a Molson in my hand anyday, though I think they're now owned by Coors (Man, first we take the Nordiques, now this?).

As for the moose missles, Lord I hope not, I hear those are HUGE!

8. Posted by TKolb325 (Full Member 197 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Here is something that should spark some debate!

The world and it's inhabitants, are evolving/existing exactly how mother nature has intended.

What!?!?! How can that be you ask? War is not natural, and that plastic coca cola bottle floating in the lake sure isn't natural!

But take a second look. What does nature teach every living creature on earth to do? SURVIVE! Survive at all costs, and survive in the easiest way possible. Nature does teach us to be lazy, because if it is easy, then it is a sure thing that it will be done.(EX. A giraffe is going to go to the closest tree for food, not venture further away from its location to prevent deforestation.)

Let's put it into perspective. We are destroying the earth with pollution from machines using oil products. This doesn't seem natural, because of it's harmful effects on the o-zone, and the inhabitants within it. But if it is so harmful, then why do we continue using it? Because it is the cheapest, and easiest way(easy because production institutions are already in place, and we do not have realistic alternatives) to support our energy needs. Nature has taught us to abuse her natural recources.

The reason we are so quick to dismiss my point, is because of the connotations with the word natural. Natural does not mean morally acceptable. It is just a description.

So the end result, is yes, we are proceding as a species in an immoral or politically incorrect fashion, but it is the way nature intended us to procede. Unfortunately, our future is grim if we procede in this way, so it is up to us to go against nature, and do what is politically correct.

Whew! That was just something I have been kicking around in my head lately, and wanted to see how others felt about my thought process. Maybe you think I am completely wrong, or maybe you agree. Or maybe this little entry in Brendan's Daily Diatribe is completely unwelcome(since I have strayed from the original subject of this post).

Either way, I have enjoyed our debates, and hope there are many more to come! Cheers!

9. Posted by beerman (Respected Member 1631 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

I think straying is allowed T....

Think on this. Yes, we are products of nature, as is all around us. Nature is what it is. Everyone of our acts as humans is determined by nature. We pollute, we elect miserable, corrupt leaders, we fornicate with sheep (well, so I've heard). However, we were also given rational thought, seemingly more than the "lesser" species, i.e., those whose languages we cannot understand.

So, what do we do? Did nature intend us to be slovenly, selfish, moderately hairy simian oafs? Or are we supposed to strive for the betterment of all around us?

Sounds kid of like a BBC documentary...I can just hear David Attenborough now......"...and here in the urban jungle, we seek the sloth, the hanger-on in this society, the, shall we say...turd in hiding.....Ooohhh, look, the bar, drinking Bud Light....."

Food for thought

10. Posted by john7buck (Respected Member 458 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Travis, good points, but I think George Carlin may have hit the nail on the head. And since I've been such a downer lately, here ya go (if offended by foul language, I apologize, please stop reading now):

We're so self-important. So self-important. Everybody's going to save something now. "Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails." And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. What? Are these fucking people kidding me? Save the planet, we don't even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven't learned how to care for one another, we're gonna save the fucking planet?

I'm getting tired of that shit. Tired of that shit. I'm tired of fucking Earth Day, I'm tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world save for their Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don't give a shit about the planet. They don't care about the planet. Not in the abstract they don't. Not in the abstract they don't. You know what they're interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They're worried that some day in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn't impress me.

Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are fucked. Difference. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people, the planet is doing great. Been here four and a half billion years. Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We've been here, what, a hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand? And we've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years. Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the CONCEIT to think that somehow we're a threat? That somehow we're gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that's just a-floatin' around the sun?

The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles...hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worlwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages...And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet...the planet...the planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE!

We're going away. Pack your shit, folks. We're going away. And we won't leave much of a trace, either. Thank God for that. Maybe a little styrofoam. Maybe. A little styrofoam. The planet'll be here and we'll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas. A surface nuisance.

You wanna know how the planet's doing? Ask those people at Pompeii, who are frozen into position from volcanic ash, how the planet's doing. You wanna know if the planet's all right, ask those people in Mexico City or Armenia or a hundred other places buried under thousands of tons of earthquake rubble, if they feel like a threat to the planet this week. Or how about those people in Kilowaia, Hawaii, who built their homes right next to an active volcano, and then wonder why they have lava in the living room.

The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we're gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, 'cause that's what it does. It's a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed, and if it's true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new pardigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn't share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn't know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, "Why are we here?" Plastic...asshole.

So, the plastic is here, our job is done, we can be phased out now. And I think that's begun. Don't you think that's already started? I think, to be fair, the planet sees us as a mild threat. Something to be dealt with. And the planet can defend itself in an organized, collective way, the way a beehive or an ant colony can. A collective defense mechanism. The planet will think of something. What would you do if you were the planet? How would you defend yourself against this troublesome, pesky species? Let's see... Viruses. Viruses might be good. They seem vulnerable to viruses. And, uh...viruses are tricky, always mutating and forming new strains whenever a vaccine is developed. Perhaps, this first virus could be one that compromises the immune system of these creatures. Perhaps a human immunodeficiency virus, making them vulnerable to all sorts of other diseases and infections that might come along. And maybe it could be spread sexually, making them a little reluctant to engage in the act of reproduction.

Well, that's a poetic note. And it's a start. And I can dream, can't I? See I don't worry about the little things: bees, trees, whales, snails. I think we're part of a greater wisdom than we will ever understand. A higher order. Call it what you want. Know what I call it? The Big Electron. The Big Electron...whoooa. Whoooa. Whoooa. It doesn't punish, it doesn't reward, it doesn't judge at all. It just is. And so are we. For a little while.

Now that's how you rant my friend!