France or Italy?

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21. Posted by amanecer (Respected Member 203 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

As for the foreigner languages spoken, unluckly Italy and France are quite similar-the knowledge of English is often basic.
I'm Italian, and I visited France many times. French have the notoriety not to be very helpful with foreigners, but for what may I concern, It has never happen to me to meet someone rude.
The countries are both beautiful, you can eat very well, you have nice season,beautiful towns, cities and countryside.
Maybe, in order to decide, it's better to check the real possibilities that you have to reach different places, I mean : where you can land? From where you can take off ?
you don't have a lot of time, and the distances are very big.
maybe you can consider to land in milan, which in my opinion it's not a very beatiful city, and visit the Alps region between Italy and France. (For example, the italian small region of Valle d'Aosta is beautiful). You're not going to see the most famous cities , but maybe you have the opportunity to see something more close to the real life than what you can see visiting the Capitals.
Otherwise, if you want to land in Paris, or in Rome, you have just the time to visit one of the 2 countries, or to visit just the city of Rome (& surroundings) and the city of Paris (connected with low cost flights, check ryanair or easyjet), not more. (and you're going to spend a lot of time travelling).

22. Posted by amanecer (Respected Member 203 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

sorry vagabond, i haven't read your last post.

you need at least 3 days for visiting roma, than you can take an intercity or eurostar train(the last one is quicker & more expensive) from rome to florence.It will take from 2 or 3 hours, depending on the train.
Rome & Florence Train stations are located in the centre of the city.
Don't rent a car to drive in Rome, nor in Florence.
Traffic in Rome is chaotic, as well as in Florence.Better to buy a 3 days pass for public transport, which in Rome costs 4 euros.
In any case remember that our cars are equipped with manual gear.
You could need a car If you'd like to visit the countryside, because many of the little tipical towns are not very well connected to the city.
If you wish to visit Siena , better to take the bus from Florence(1 hour) than the train (2hours). You can also reach Siena directly from Rome, by bus (, check also for the special offers)the journey takes 3 hours.
From Florence to Pisa you can take the train, the travel lasts 1 hour.
You need at least 2or 3 days to visit Florence, 1 day to visit Siena and maybe half day to visit Pisa, which is really close to the coast.

From Rome to Naples the travel can last from 1h15 mins to 1h 40, depending on the train. You need at least 2 days to visit naples, DON'T RENT A CAR IN NAPLES.
you can check the train timetable here:

23. Posted by Odysseas (Full Member 1359 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Shoot you?Well I'll think of it...

No,seriously,I must say you're right.French people can be rude...But not only with strangers...It's something with the travel,I think.
Anyway,I say Italy,cause as it was mentioned,it's easier access,for history part and people,the monuments are easy to find,the italian are always very pleased to have an occasion to tell you how much their"Italia" is the most wonderful country in the world,if you want a guide,just ask any italian nearby the monument and you will see!
Also they have the culture of beauty,which results that every thing is so beautiful there,and the women are THE MOST GORGEOUS WOMEN OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!(well,for the half world I've seen,at least).
So,to resume,Italy is better for such a short time,and keep France for once you'll have a long trip.
I hope it will help you to take your decision,as I'm french and I tell you to go to Italy...
Good trip,vagabond ;) (and don't forget Venezia!)

24. Posted by amanecer (Respected Member 203 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

I said the French people are sometimes considered rude, but I also said that I 've never met unpolite people in France. So that it could be a stereotype:)
you're right when you say that Italians love to explain their country to foreigners:) I've never realized how often it happens!

25. Posted by smackerszj (Full Member 94 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Also they have the culture of beauty,which results that every thing is so beautiful there,and the women are THE MOST GORGEOUS WOMEN OF THE WORLD

this should settle it

26. Posted by Americano (Budding Member 7 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Italy. Forget France.

Italy is less expensive.
Italians are friendlier.
Italian food is healthier.
Italian food is better.
Italian food is less expensive.
Italians smile more.
Italy is warmer.

You can always cross the Alps by ski. Here we are skiing from Italy into France... you can do this from La Thuile in the Valle D'Aosta and ski over into La Rosiere in France.

It was great!

Just to give you an idea of the price differential, on the Italian side of the mountain I paid €8.00 for lunch:

€8.00 Lunch in Italy

  • Pork steak
  • Grilled Vegetables
  • Foccacia (a kind of sauceless pizza)
  • Glass of wine
  • Expresso (or cappucino)
  • Smile

€7.50 Lunch in France

  • French Fries
  • Coke
  • Frown

So, like I said. Italy, not France.

27. Posted by Odysseas (Full Member 1359 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Quoting Americano

Italy. Forget France.

Though i adviced him to choose Italy,your "enthousiasm" makes me think you have very little knowledge about France...

28. Posted by mim (Travel Guru 1276 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Hey guys, lets try and keep the discussion friendly eh?

everyone knows stereotypes are a bag of rubbish and you can find any type of person in any country

29. Posted by mee (Full Member 138 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!


I've visited Italy a couple of times. Especially the north. Florence is very!! nice, but I wouldn't spend more than 1 day in Milan.
I can recommend venice, too, because it's just that different: No cars, no bikes...)

Me too, I'm of the opinion that 9 days are not enough to visit france... the country's really too big.

Maybe you should study a little italian... When I was at the station in Florence, the employees didn't really understand me and always pointed at the guy next of themselves when I asked if someone speaks english...

Have a nice trip!!