My almost final itinerary....

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1. Posted by sparkybob (Budding Member 3 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

So here we go, My wife and I have less then 2 months until our first trip to Europe. Please give any feedback you might have.

London May 17th- 18th: Arrive in London in the am. Spend two full days in London and leave late on the 18th for Belfast.
Northern Ireland/Ireland May 18th-23rd: Staying with friends who will be giving us the grand tour of Northern Ireland and Dublin area. We fly our of Dublin on the 23rd am.
Nantes, Saint-Malo, & Bayeux France May 23rd-25th: Will have a car to tour the Brittany Coast, Mont Saint Michelle, and a tour of the D-Day Beaches. Staying one night in Saint-Malo, and a night in Bayeux before catching a evening train into Paris on the 25th.
Paris May 25th-26th: I know, not much time in the city, but all I really want to see is the Louvre(morning and afternoon of the 26th) and Eiffel Tower (night of the 25th). We will take a night train from Paris into Interlaken.
Night Train 26th-27th
Interlaken and vicinity May 27th-30th: Not sure where we will be staying here, but would like to visit some smaller towns like Grindelwald, and maybe take the Junfrau train. Any suggestions? After 3 full days in Interlaken, will leave early on the 30th and take a train back into France to Chamonix. I've always wanted to take the gondola over the alps into Italy.
Aosta, Italy May 30th-31st: Just a place to stay on the other side of the alps. Hope to get a taste of some gelato and pasta. Leave in the am for a train to Cinque Terre, hoping to stop either in Torino or Genova for lunch.
Cinque Terre May 31st-June 3rd: Not sure what city or cities we'll stay, but I hope this we'll be like a vaction from our vacation. Open for suggestions on where to stay. We will leave from Riomaggiore early on the 3rd so we can get to Florence at a decent time. Is it worth swinging by Pisa?
Florance June 3rd-5th: I hope to use all day on the 4th for Museums, are they open on Sundays? Spending the night on the 4th so we can stop by Assisi on the 5th on our way into Rome.
Rome June 5th-7th: Yes, only two days in Rome. I went back and forth on this one, and would love to stay longer, but I know this is one place I will visit again, so I hope 2 full days in Rome will be enough for this trip. Please help on what are must sees for our 2 days. We will leave on a night train for Venice on the 7th.
Night Train 7th-8th
Venice June 8th-9th: arriving early in the morning and again leaving late on the 9th for a night train for Munich, we figured 2 full days in Venice would be enough. what do you think?
Night Train 9th-10th
Munich to Frankfurt June 10th-12th: Once again we will have a car for 3 days. We plan on stopping by Dachau, and basically the fredom of going of the beating path for a few days. Not sure where we will be staying for the nights of the 10th and 11th, but will be returing the car in Frankfurt the morning of the 12th, so we can catch a train into Gelsenkirchen for a world cup soccer game.
Gelsenkirchen June 12th-13th: Just here for the game, not sure if I'll even have a place to stay. But got to catch a early train into Amsterdam to catch an afternoon flight home.

So what do you guys think?
Any thoughts or ideas are once again very helpful. The only part that is set in stone is London, Ireland, and France until Paris. (because of plane tickets and our resorvation for a D-day tour).

Peter and Molly <><

Ps. If anyone is interested, I have been using Google earth to help plan my route, and can email it to you as an attatchment.

2. Posted by coldwarspy (Travel Guru 1108 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

hey there

ur route sounds aggressive but managable. Im always gonna say more time in each place and less places, but im a lazy backpacker!

Nantes, Saint-Malo, & Bayeux France May 23rd-25th: Will have a car to tour the Brittany Coast, Mont Saint Michelle, and a tour of the D-Day Beaches. Staying one night in Saint-Malo, and a night in Bayeux before catching a evening train into Paris on the 25th.

I just did this tour and it took me about 5 days to cover this ground.

My french friend had a car and she drove us around the brittany coast Nantes - Vannes - Carnac - then to Rennes for 2 days. If your just ´seeing the northern coast of brittany you should leave 2-3 days. Ide recommend Rennes over Nantes, and Dinan is a must. These are preserved medieval towns with old wood beamed houses. you can see some in my photo gallery. Dinan might be a better option since its only 1 hour drive from St Malo. And St Malo is stunning! good choice and you will be amazed. Try to catch the beach at sunset!! again pics in my gallery will testify. Mt St Michel and Figoures are a good choice too, the latter hosts a wonderful Castle if you have time, only 1hr from Mt St Michel.

Bayeux is a great spot for travelling the beaches. I met a guy in the hostel who had a car and we got up early and got to the American Cemetery/Omaha beach, Pointe Du Hoc, Gold Beach, and the Longouges Batteries (preserved german guns) these again are in my gallery.

This was one day but u should also see the Bayeux tapestry, for me it was somethin i had always read about but to finally see it, like the DDAY beaches, was well worth the trip. But Bayuex, in my opinion, coming from Brittany, was a ugly town with no real historic center.

well hope this helps, enjoy!

3. Posted by sparkybob (Budding Member 3 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Thanks for the input on the northern coast of France. I just bought my rail pass today and can't wait to get over there. The only reason I am gonna be in Nantes, is because I got cheap airfair to there from Dublin. I am most interested in spending our first day in st Malo area, but will now hope to pass through Dinan for lunch or something, and then our second day around Mt St Michel.

By the way, I liked your pictures.


Any one else? Please, any input is really helpful.

4. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3290 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

I would strongly recommend checking train times and schedules from Gelsenkirchen to Amsterdam if there is a world cup game that day. You'll need to book either the train tickets or acco asap. Check

I don't know what time the game is, but there are no trains from Gelsenkirchen to Amsterdam on the 12th after 22:00 h. Travel time is approx. 3-4 hours depending upon the connection. Taking into account that you need to get from the train station to the airport as well as be there 2 hours before your flight leaves, you're looking at 7 hours minimum to get to the airport in amsterdam on the 13th.

If you are in Munich, don't miss out:

Hofbräuhaus (the world's most famous pub),
maybe either Deutsches Museum, BMW museum or Deutsches Museum Verkehrszentrum,
and since you are on a WWII trip:

more info:

And since you are in the area, consider a ride to Obersalzberg near Berchtesgarden.
It should be a two hour drive from Munich.

For reading, if you don't know it already:
Fatherland by Robert Harris

You could also try to get your hands on the 1982 movie "Die Weisse Rose" directed by Michael Verhoeven, which was subtitled and released in the USA on video as "The White Rose".
It focuses on the WWII-resistance movement "Die Weisse Rose", a group of students at the University of Munich.

Enroute from Munich to Frankfurt lies Rothenburg ob der Tauber. It is pretty touristic, but I heard that it is worth it. (The Japanese tourist buses keep coming into that town, and it has to count for somthing.)
But if you are into shopping, you could use the southern route via Ulm and Stuttgart. You would drive a scenic route coming to Stuttgart (look out for Burg Teck) and stop in Metzingen near Stuttgart - the number one town of factory outlets in Europe. Then you could visit in Heidelberg or Tuebingen instead of Rothenburg.

One little tip: don't underestimate "the little hills" you see on the map. These are fully blown mountains which can impede your speed heavily if you drive federal state roads only compared with autobahn.

For Frankfurt, I can also strongly recommend the Jewish museum in Frankfurt a. Main as well as the "Römerberg".

For more info's contact:
Tourismus + Congress GmbH Frankfurt am Main
Touristinfo Römer
Römerberg 27
60311 Frankfurt am Main

For more info on Germany:

5. Posted by tomm35 (Budding Member 47 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

That sounds like a really cool trip. How did you manage to get world cup tickets?