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81. Posted by tallbird (Respected Member 269 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Here, check this out in the papers this morning:

Basically a British Muslim had to pay extra money for extra security checks and have all his fingertips printed to get his visa for the US, just because his name was Muhammed. The embassy person had apparently said;" there were a lot of bad people in the world with that name." How rude is that!

Don't reckon Muhammed Ali would have to go through the same procedures, would he?????

82. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Quoting tallbird

Don't reckon Muhammed Ali would have to go through the same procedures, would he?????

That's one we will never know since he is citizen of the US. But, the real question lies with what is on his birth certificate and his passport. His birth certificate lists him as Cassius Marcellus Clay, Jr. Once he became part of the Nation of Islam, he became Cassius X and was finally given the name Muhammad Ali by Elijah Muhammad, the leader of the Nation of Islam at that time. There is no mention (that I could find) stating he changed his name through the court system, but rather only "adopted" the name. If he was not a US citizen, nor a celebrity, and Muhammad was/is listed on his passport, then yes - I think he would have been so scrutinized.

We denied Yusuf Islam (aka Cat Stevens) entry into the US on September 21, 2004. He was traveling with his daughter from London to Washington. Reports have it that he had traveled several time to the US between 9/11 and the date of his entry denial. His name appeared on a "no-fly" list issued by Homeland Security and it was good-bye Yusuf.

Honestly, I see no rhyme nor reason to the screening process. Each day brings something new to the table because of e-mial interceptions, wire-tapped phones and just general "cover your ass" thinking. More often than not, it's the latter that fuels the fires.

83. Posted by Bogman (Budding Member 61 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

I generally have no problem with being fingerprinted upon entering the US (yes they already have my prints on record when I applied for a green card), and I have no idea why anyone should be shocked in this day and age. Save your rage for everything else that Immigration and Customs screws up. By the way, if you are opposed to being printed then just enter the US by land (from Canada or Mexico) and not air.

I think the far bigger problem is the new rules coming into effect requiring everyone to have a passport or new ID card to enter the USA. For Canadian / US border towns (yes, I live in a border town) this will be economic disaster.

84. Posted by Bogman (Budding Member 61 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

re the Muhammed Ali comment above.... I live in a US town on the Canadian border, and my girlfriend lives on the canadian side. Last year she arranged for a taxi to bring her to my house, and they pull up to US customs and apparently the taxi drivers legal name was "Jihad" (he told my girlfriend his name was Tony). Got a weeping phone call from the girlfriend to drive up and pick her up at the border and they were still questioning the poor feller.

85. Posted by katzie (First Time Poster 1 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

im off to the USA for 28 days in august and didnt realise that i was going to be fingerprinted!
although i have nothing to hide, i did watch "road to guantanamo" and dont want to get my dna messed up with anyone who does have somthing to hide!!

86. Posted by tarks (Budding Member 10 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

I'm going to the US in 2 weeks and just read this post about finger-printing. This probably sounds really strange, but is it the right index finger the finger-print or whole hand?

I'm just wondering because from my old job, working in a cafe/deli, and I got ezcema on a few of my fingers as a reaction to chemicals and santisers we used to clean, and even with prescribed cream from the doctor is hasn't fully cleared up, so the skin on my right-index finger and thumb is a bit damaged...anyone have any idea of would happen in this stiuation? (my left hand is fine...)

87. Posted by Zoom (Full Member 131 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Tarks, Please don't worry about it. You have some damage you have some damage. They won't send you back or anything. It's their little program so let them deal with it. Just tell them what the problem is and they'll have to figure it out - have a nice time....Zoom`

88. Posted by ubp (Budding Member 2 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Can someone please tell me why the US Dept of Homeland Security doesn't check there fingerprint database?
I was fingerprinted on a trip to the US last year at Toronto airport. Pulled out of line and printed and photographed even though I am Canadian and supposedly exempt.
I just moved to the US and married a US citizen and have applied for all the papers i require to do things legally. One of the process steps is to pay $75 and go have Biometrics done. Lets see, they have all my background info, passport info, and 1 inch of paperwork with every scrap of possible info they will ever need, can they not push a button on the computer and find they ALREADY have my fingerprints. Just seems to me that they are not using this database to the full extent and are doing a money grab on immigration.

89. Posted by Belize Me (Full Member 137 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

The fact that a 'foreigner' married a US citizen probably set off alarm bells.

After the arrests this week of the alleged terrorists in Toronto, undoubtedly it is only going to get worse. I have heard (talk radio) that the wait times at the border (to enter the US by car) are taking 3-4 hours at times.

Belize Me

90. Posted by markmac (Budding Member 60 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

I had to, for the past year, travel through the states to Central America for work. Being Canadian, it is relatively easy, that being said, the US customs agents are brutal!! I will not travel to the states again unless I have to. To all the other travellers who have to be fingerprinted, I would flat out refuse, it is an absolute joke! Jump back on a plane and go somewhere else.

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