TEACHING ENGLISH IN JAPAN! ............ yes, another one

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1. Posted by eits (Inactive 50 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

i was wondering if you guys can point me to some english teaching programs that you recommend in japan ......... some that will allow me to build a life there, as long as i want...... and make great cash-money... i am learning to speak japanese right now. i do not have a college degree yet.
and also this...... i plan on doing everything there.....a life..... i want to know your opinions about an american going there to work on music, go to classes in a city college, and live a life there.

2. Posted by d3r-wolf (Budding Member 22 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

hey rob,

sorry this wont help you cuz im not giving you any tips or stuff,
i only read your thread and it really sounds like that you wanna spend your life in japan.
haha, great idea dude, i was planning to do the same thing. i dont wanna become a teacher though so i have to search for other options. besides im german and i think english teachers are much more welcome there...
so i am planning to do business or engineering which will lead me to the country. i like it soo much..i have to go there somehow, many (like you) are going there (in my opinion) the easiest way, that is as a teacher, but there are many ways to rome (you know that one?, its a saying) so i will go there some day in the future, even if it is as a beggar. i told myself, if im not there before im 30 years old, i will just go there no matter what.

hahah, ok, have fun, im sure many people here will help you with your teaching dream and that.

by the way, just check out other threads about the same topics cuz there were internet adresses as well,



3. Posted by ghostdog (Full Member 142 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

I built a life here from scratch and after 4 years am leaving to go travel again and it is a tough thing to give up. So it is definitely possible. The biggest obstacle is start up costs. Taking Japanese lesson is the way to go, it will greatly improve your options and enjoyment while living here.

You can easily supplement a student life with part time teaching as long as you had your school costs covered-doing both full time at once seems a little hectic to me personally. Tokyo is an expensive city but not as bad as they say if you can cook, walk and keep the drinking or clubbing to a few nights a week!
As far as programs if you mean programs that get you teaching then you should check out JET ( not sure if you need a degree or not tho).
What kind of music do mean to get into?

PM me for more info if u need 2

4. Posted by eits (Inactive 50 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

i should have at least $4000 when i leave ....... i'm kinda getting into photography, so i was wondering if japan is a good place for that....... and the arts. whatever i do, i want a job in the arts...... music, film making, photo, etc. ........ but music is a passion as a hobbie, like getting on just a small lable, so i still want to work on that ...... my music sounds like serene and beautiful, indie rock with epicness, i work with some midi and real instruments.
well teaching english i know is a gateway ..... it seems to simplify the process.... ya know, you have a job, residence, and visa taken care of..... but while i'm there, i will difinately look for other work. my biggest drawback is i don't have a degree yet, and want to go to a country where i can still work on it.
thanks everyone!

5. Posted by nickla (Respected Member 223 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

If you decide to go with a company to teach English, then a lot of them will require you to have a degree if not a TEFL course. Some TEFL courses will require you to have a degree, but most will not. If you do join a programme they will expect you to work full time for them. This is generally the way you get a visa sorted. Also, once you finish teaching and go a different way, the school / company you are at will not support a new visa, so you will have to find a job where they will support a new visa application. Teaching english is indeed a good way to get into a new country, but, if it is not something that you really want to do, you should think twice about it. Sometimes (depending on if u work for a company or not) the hours can be long, the pay not always brilliant, and things not quite as expected.

Perhaps consider somewhere other than Tokyo to live and you will be able to save more money. Esp on rent etc.

I got the impression for a previous thread you started that you were moving to San Fran??

6. Posted by ghostdog (Full Member 142 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

4000 should last you at least 2 or 3 months depending on where and how you live. I agree with Nickla on the living costs - the countryside is cheaper. If you still want access to Tokyo then Saitama and Chiba are good choices. I live in Matsudo city about 40 min from central Tokyo and have a decent size 3DK (50msquare) apartment 10 mins from a train station and pay 700US$ a month. At times there have been 2 or 3 of us living here so the rent isn`t so bad and you eventually get accustomed to sharing a wall with everyone in the place. With 2 is best value and you get decent space. School will often hook you up with apartment but usually you pay a markup on the rent for the convenience.

I like photography as well and Japan is a great country for that. So many contrasts, so much happening at all times and a million things you have never seen before. Take care when you choose a developer though there is a big variety in quality here.

I found this website in the newpaper today haven`t checked it but it may help you www.zenext.net
There seems to be a market for foreign talent here. After all, you are still somewhat of a novelty here(the level varies depending on skin color...).
A few friends of mine have done well here DJing, not world famous but they got a chance to improve their music and play for people. I am sure you could find that kind of scene for your music as well. You may also want to look into Osaka they seemed to have a great vibe for live music as well. Speaking Japanese, even if it was only a little at the beginning, would open a lot more doors for you here in this case.

[ Edit: Edited at Jun 17, 2006 10:30 PM by ghostdog ]

7. Posted by eits (Inactive 50 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

yeah, i was gonna move back to san francisco.... still might ...... but i want to travel so bad! don't wanna give that up ..... i am sooooo confused whether to:
1. visit japan for 2 weeks ........ then move to san fran to live -OR-
2. move to japan instead ....... and kill two birds with one stone.

i don't want to move to japan if my life is going to be put on hold .... i really want to know how easy it will be to do everything there... i did some reading the other day, and found out in japan, it will take awhile to see money back, and settle in ...... what do you guys think?
i need more answers!
help! arrrrrg!

p.s. i've never been to japan

8. Posted by danahawkins (Inactive 128 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Everyones had some pretty comprehensive answers so far... but about the music thing...

It's hella easy for gaijins to get into music over here, it's part of the novelty value of having a foriegner playing in your club. I've seen some gigs around Tokyo with some pretty shocking foriegn bands... you can get in a lot of places, just don't be afraid to go at it.

As for making a life here, good on you if you can do it. Personally, I couldn't live here for more than 2-3 years. I've been here a year and i'm already a little over it... but then I love my home country, so nothing seems as good in comparison.

9. Posted by ghostdog (Full Member 142 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Yea it takes a while to see money back. I think it is a minimum of 2 years to make it worth your while. My yearly salary teaching has increased every year and I am making alot more than when I first got here and working alot less! Even if you get to work right away I personally think a year is a waste if your goal is to make money and have a life.
It all depends on your tolerance for living in a radically different environment and making it your home for some time.It is hard at times(more so for women it seems) and frustrating on a daily basis. Living here is in no way similar to Canada and that is what I like and don`t like. If you don`t have alot of experience with different cultures you may find it hard at first. Tolerance and accepting the fact that this is NOT your country will go a long way in keeping you sane here.
Keep in mind that you may not have a life right away and it can get lonely when you first get here,depending on the type of person you are of course. If you make the effort there are alot of great people especially in Tokyo. As you get farther out of the city you have less access to meeting others and it seems like a lot more work maintaining relationships due to distance and time constraints.

10. Posted by Jerrycrow (Full Member 165 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

i had the same similar feelings when i was hell bent on coming to England from malaysia. you would feel uncertain, confused and unsure. i didnt plan on working as a counter worker in takeaways in the UK, but i needed to work to supplement my journeys in the UK. at first, everything is so wonderful, new culture to understand, new places to see, more people to meet and greet. time goes by, friends are made, really good friends. but after a year, everything comes tumbling down, i wasnt happy anymore. i questioned myself, what am i working for, should i trade my happiness and sense of fulfilment for money? i was in a limbo, i wanted to go back home, but now i am still uncertain. anyway, if you really want to go to Japan, then you should go, go when you are young, so that you can enjoy it with a fresh view of life. as one grows older, one is reluctant to move to a different country because the commitments would pile up, like career, job security, family, wife, kids etc. do it when you have no commitments.

good luck on your decision