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11. Posted by marijn (Budding Member 6 posts) 15y Star this if you like it!

Well December to March will be in between 0 - 10 degrees, I agree with that Quericas that is a bit cold, but since you know what it can be like in Tassie and Melbourne, you know how to dress warm! And it won't really interfer with sightseeing. Not advisable, I won't say (I'm in New Zealand at the moment and freezing my ass of, but am loving every minute seeing the country in its wintertime) it'll just be different! More walking around in coats and rainjackets (cause rain you'll probably see, that's Europe for you at that time) in stead of t-shirts. Even in Februari, still around 7/8 degrees, especially the countries you guys wanna visit.
Kylie, if you can change your plans to later, I suggest you do. It's now May and my family and friends are enjoying the sun in the Netherlands for about a month orso, it mostly starts to warm up half March/beginning April. So it will be easier and probably more pleasant to travel around during Spring.
Kody; bring a rainjacket to England and try to go there in March and you'll definately have a good time, even though it might be a bit cold and rainy! Enjoy all!!

12. Posted by kody (Respected Member 234 posts) 15y Star this if you like it!

Thanks marijn for ur comment. Appreciate it.

Well, meaning that in March the weather will be slightly getting warmer, but rain might be stull expected right?
Well, I'll be planning to hit as many places as possible in in UK, and will be heading to Paris, Brussels, and final stop in Amsterdam. Now I'm thinking the best way is to travel via Eurostar. Do u have any idea how much is the fare to travel like this? I'm quite confuse with the "Fare Category" and the prices range differently. Any recommendation about that?

13. Posted by marijn (Budding Member 6 posts) 15y Star this if you like it!

Hi Kody, March will be warmer indeed, but still expect some rain there!
About the trains from Eurostar, must say never travelled with them. But seems like a good option, I hear more travellers about them. The way I see it works is that as soon as you know about what time you wanna travel around you book with them; the sooner the cheapest! When you're 26 or younger prices from London to Paris and Brussels are both inbetween 40 and 70 pounds one way, sooner you book better chance at getting it cheap. All in all I think you have to think of probably spending about 250 pounds. Via an other post I found the following website; maybe that will help you a bit more for all the different fares and trains?!
By the way when I go to Paris or London from Amsterdam I usually try to find cheap flights via Sometimes just about 30 Euro's to fly there one way! So some superdeals aswell:
Hope this'll help, otherwise let me know if I can help you out more!

14. Posted by kody (Respected Member 234 posts) 15y Star this if you like it!

Thanks for the info marijn.

Well I didn't know that getting a flight frm easyjet is that cheap! How do you get that fare, it doesn't seems to have that fare that frequent rite? But one of the reason to hop on a train is that, during the journey, view and panaroma frm the land should gimme a glimpse of chance for a magnificient sigh seeing I guess...

Another option is because "The Eurail Pass offers unlimited rail travel for various periods from ten days up to three months" I only have a mere 3 weeks to complete my journey.

I'm planning to start frm London, Waterloo and head to Paris (2 nights) and head to Brussels(1 night) and head to Amsterdam(2 nights) before finishing my 1st week and head back to London, where I'll travel up to Midlands and Liverpool.
Sorry to bother again, do u think it's sufficient for 3 weeks?

My main concern now is, I've no idea how far a plc to another plc where it gives me difficulties to schedule and plan ahead my trip. There's a lot of homework to be done here...

15. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4138 posts) 15y Star this if you like it!

There's benefits in going in Winter.

It's a completely different type of holiday than normal, and you see places in a different light (or no light!) than in warmer months. The crowds are a lot thinner, so there's no lining up to get into tourist places.

Yes, it gets cold (zero degrees in most places), but everywhere has central heating, and when you're on the go everyday you tend to feel it a lot less than you think you will.

Do it!

16. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4138 posts) 15y Star this if you like it!

Another thing. Forget this rubbish about being from Australia and so expect it to be freezing.

Due to the lack of central heating, etc I've been colder in Sydney in winter than in London in winter.

I don't know why Australians think that no matter where they live in Australia they have this tropical queensland type of weather.

17. Posted by marijn (Budding Member 6 posts) 15y Star this if you like it!

James, true about that weather thing and the Aussies. I heard a lot complain about being freezing cold, if it was a nice 18 degree day in Sydney! And I thought it was such a nice day..
And Kody, I replied your message. But just forgot to say that I would think your plans are well sufficient for your three weeks! And you will manage that well with Eurotrain! Good luck planning!

18. Posted by Quercus (Full Member 76 posts) 15y Star this if you like it!

Thanks James.
I appreciate that central heating is a much bigger thing in Europe and North America than in Australia. I was merely making the point that it can get much colder than it ever gets here. No, I don't live in a tropical climate, but because I was born and raised here it does take me awhile to get used to the cold, and my perceptions of what is and what is not regarded as a cold temperature differs from my European or North American counterparts. I was merely highlighting a difference that was perhaps useful to someone travelling there. Just as someone from the the Australian summer can be extremely hot and they should be prepared for it, because Aussies, being used to high summer temperatures, might tell them they have nothing to worry about.

Sorry for the long post and the negative spirit with which I'm writing it,

19. Posted by Quercus (Full Member 76 posts) 15y Star this if you like it!

And another thing, central heating is only great when you're indoors. I expect that if you're travelling to another country one might want to go outside and 'see the sights', and in which case they will be exposed to the cold

Quercus :)

20. Posted by james (Travel Guru 4138 posts) 15y Star this if you like it!

Quercus, yes it can get much colder in Europe than in Melbourne. But Europe "caters" for the cold weather, whereas Australia generally doesn't (unless you count sitting around a bar heater in a room closed off from the rest of the house).

Most Australians that I've met seem to think that they have a "monoploy" on good weather (as well as a good sense of humour, good beer, and great food, among other things). The truth is that most places in the world get just as hot in Summer as the places in Australia where most people live do (Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Brisbance, etc).

Personally, I think the European winters are glorious. It's not the cold that's an issue, it's the short days.

There's a heap of indoor things to see in Europe, and if you rug up, plenty of outdoor things to see also.