How would u define 'racist/racism'?

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1. Posted by Kathi20 (Respected Member 270 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

I'm married to a South African and while living in NZ, I often had to hear theat 'all South Africans' are racists.

You hear a lot of opinions while travelling and talking to people from all over the world, nevertheless I'd like to know, how u guys would define 'racist/racism' and whether u had any experiences u'd like to tell me about.

Have u ever felt that u were a 'racist' at some stage of ur life? Did u have a different attitude before travelling and before experiencing certain things?

hope to get a few responses on this

Kathi ;)

2. Posted by Zoom (Full Member 131 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

A Racist is a person who thinks #1 An entire group of certain people are all totally alike, that they are not individuals with different views and beliefs AND #2 that that group is inferior to other groups that this person thinks are all a like and equal (but superior in their thinking and achievements to the group he doesn't like). I hear it a lot these days when ignorant idiots call political talk shows and say that about Muslim/Islamic people or about the French because they didn't agree to join Bush's Stupid war on Iraq. Now that we see the true idiot is and ALWAYS has been GWB - since Iraq is now lost and in the middle of a horrible civil war - we also see that The French Government and majority of French people were spot on. I NEVER say 100% of ANY group is the same. But IMO, there's enough idiots in the USA that I've had it with my homeland and am in the process of moving (slowly, due to business complications) to Paris, where I already live part time,and am planning to buy an apartment in Buenos Aires, Argentina in the next 6 months as a second home base. It's only going to get worse and more STUPID in America so it's time to move where the average person has a bit more sense and brains. America's gonna have to sink MUCH lower before it wakes up to what's going on.

BTW, I was in SA for a month in 1984 and I didn't find all white SA's racist. A few were but some were very sympathetic to the blacks. I knew one family that illegally had their housekeeper live with them. She was DEFINITELY part of the family - doing EVERYTHING with them. On the other hand I heard a few not to nice comments but it wasn't everyday/all the time. It was a mixed bag, like most things in life are. Of course I believe Apartheid was wrong and it's days were numbered with the whole world pointing it's crooked finger at SA. Funny, America had one of the biggest fingers pointing at SA but yet , a few years earlier, was hanging (lynching) blacks from trees and light poles for sport and a good time (slightly hypocritical I would say). Today, the Israel/American Government (and many Israeli citizens) practice Apartheid against the Palestinians and no one says a word so it just goes to show you how different countries($$$) have different rules ($$$) depending on different factors ($$$) - it's all SO MAGICAL ($$$) or maybe it's just really simple - Zoom '' Keeping an eye on the truth for my peeps

3. Posted by Zoom (Full Member 131 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

PS. Just took a look at your page. I'm a pro travel Photographer and just wanted to tell you your shots are pretty good. You have a good eye. The only thing I would do is maybe crop a bit across the bottom to make them a bit more Strongly horizontal (remember, Horizontal crop = serenity and Vertical crop = intensity. Square has no effect, good for portraits) The only OBVIOUS mistake I saw was you should have tilted up more on the cow shot. The ROAD shot is VERY nice with great composition. The last one with the tree would look great in B / W - very moody. Hope you don't mind the unsolicitated review but when I see someone with a good eye for compo, etc I like to let them know. Also I see you 2 (nice shot BTW) live in Austria. Haven't been everywhere but I love Vienna, one of my favorite European cities, great town. Take Care, Zoom

4. Posted by Isadora (Travel Guru 13926 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Hi Kathi,

As the saying goes - be careful what you ask for - you just might get it...

This thread has the potential to become quite "volatile" in nature as everyone has a different opinion of what "racist/racism" entails. I am going to say this up front so there is no doubt in anyone's mind what is appropriate and what is not...

Since the questions have been asked - please keep your answers relevent. If you disagree with someone, keep your comments to the point and do NOT lower yourselves to personal attacks as they will be edited or deleted completely.

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6. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3383 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Mostly it is the non-educated and extremely simple-minded human being that is a racist. A racist also hasn't any knowledge about other races then its own superior race.

[ Edit: Edited at Aug 26, 2006 2:18 PM by wouterrr ]

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8. Posted by marlis (Travel Guru 1167 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

I'm a racist?

I dont care about the color of people,I live in a multy/kulty neighbourhood.
Sometimes people will ask me if I have Black People next to me or if I have black friends.To be honest,I have to think about,because I dont realise what shade there skin is,because I dont care,it is not importent for me.I'm invited to there partys,I like to go there and I like to see and heare about there cultur.
Does it makes me a racist
I dont visit Countrys where women have no rights,where killed in the name of Family Honor and,and,and.
If this makes me a racist,then I am one.


9. Posted by wouterrr (Travel Guru 3383 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

Quoting marlis

I dont visit Countrys where women have no rights,where killed in the name of Family Honor and,and,and.
If this makes me a racist,then I am one.

10. Posted by tway (Travel Guru 7273 posts) 12y Star this if you like it!

One of my teachers in university drilled it into our heads that there are only (if I remember him right - so much for the drilling) 4 races in the world: white, black, mongolian, and indigenous. He was fed up with people misusing such a volitile word. Someone from Canada who dislikes, say, people from France is not a "racist" - as he French are a people with a common language and culture, but not one distinct race.

Racism is a touchy issue. Someone once told me that everyone is racist in some way; we're born seeing everyone as equal and then develop, to a greater or lesser degree, ways of categorizing people - as that's how the brain works to store information. But then people begin to use those categories to judge people's worthiness, intelligence, etc. and everything goes haywire.

I told my boyfriend, after a recent trip to Cuba, that I'd never get on a rollercoaster in a Cuban travelling fun fair. I don't know if that's a racist statement or not, but that's the conclusion my brain came away with.