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1. Posted by bentivogli (Travel Guru 2398 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

How easy is it to obtain your country's nationality? And how easy do you loose it again?

The manifesto of a new politicial movement in the Netherlands got my curiosity started on this issue. They want to take away dutch nationality from those who commit a crime in the first ten years after obtaining it. This sounds pretty barbaric and disproportionate to me, but what do other countries do?

thanks for your info,

2. Posted by Jase007 (Respected Member 8870 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Good question,
I can see their point to some extent although 10 years does seem to be a long time.
Citizenship here in the UK can be applied for after 3 years (well residency anyway), and the UK goverment are very reluctant to kick anyone out (even if they are illegals) let alone if someone has actually made the citizen ranks.
I do agree in some circumstances that deportation and stripping of citizenship for immergrants in extreme circumstances could be justified.
But it would have to be judged on a case by case basis, taking into account various things like: length of stay, family ties, value to the community, and the reason that such an act may be considered would have to be very severe(e.g treason, murder, rape, organised crime, fraud).
This is a very hot topic, as it can open up a can of worms with views rangeing from the open door policy through to closed boarders. To find a balance has, and I presume always be a fine line to walk with no matter what route a goverment selects they will never please everyone.

[ Edit: Edited at Oct 9, 2006 3:51 AM by Jase007 ]

3. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

I am not sure.
Economic immigration to Ireland, is still a very new thing. I dont even know, if the immigrants can become citizens, or not. I dont even know, if they are allowed to stay permanently, in Ireland. I have not lived in Ireland, for 4 years, so i am not familiar at all, with the situation.