Trip Route is in question

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1. Posted by jlenigk17 (Budding Member 9 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

I'm planning a RTW to start from the U.S. in May, and wanting to spend about or a little under 12 months out. I want to hit central/south America, Aus., New Z., India, Nepal, West Russia, Scandinavia, and most of eastern Europe. I'm having a horrible time trying to hit all these places at the right time. I'd take any suggestions as to a somewhat decent itinerary, and I'm not really looking to go to the big festivals, if that helps. thanks a ton.

2. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5672 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

For a start, is it possible to start in Europe? That way you will be hitting Scandinavia, West Russia and Eastern Europe in summer, and from there you can take a train to Beijing and head south to India and hit India when it's the cool and dry season (from November on). From there to Sout East Asia and Australia and New Zealand when it's summer over there. And then on to South America, southern part first when it's still warm, and up north to Central America when it's the dry season up there.

For example:
Scandanavia 1 month
Eastern Europe and Russia: 1 month
China 1 month
India 2 months
Australia 2 months
New Zealand 1 month
South America 2 months
Central America 2 months.

Actually, 12 months is pretty short for this itinerary, but if you don't want to experience everything in detail, it's possible, but you still have to make choices.

Have fun, Michael

3. Posted by aharrold45 (Travel Guru 1281 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Something like what Utrecht said would be good if you could start by flying from US-Europe, but you might need to re arrange those approximate amounts of time for the amount of areas you are wanting to visit, because 2 months in India would be enough to drive most people nutty. Also getting from India-Australia wouldn't be possible as far as I know, on my ticket I had to go Bangkok-Mumbai, so I'd reckon you'd need a Mumbai or Delhi flight to Bangkok to then move on to Australia. You should also allow at least two weeks in Western Russia, so having 1 month to see Eastern Europe probably would be a fair bit too little unless you just want to see West Russia and one other country or maybe 2 at best.

For your type of trip, from what I can gather the Oneworld alliance RTW ticket is now the only one which will allow you flights in South America. A continent based ticket might be the way to go for your itinerary, but I think you'll need plenty of overland travel and may not be able to land and depart from your ideal cities, because going in to Moscow or St Petersburg is very hard to leave to anywhere going in a Eastrn direction. I think that it may actually be impossible on a RTW ticket without heading overland to another country to get a flight out of. Like maybe you could get a flight from London-Kiev(Ukraine) then go overland through Russia up through the Baltics and go to Helsinki and either do a bit of travel in Scandinavia or limit to Finland (Scandinavia as well as Russia are very expensive), before heading to an airport which will get you to Asia. On my trip using the oneworld ticket, I went from London-Kiev overland through Russia, Latvia, estonia then got a ferry to Helsinki, saw some of Finland and then the next flight on my RTW ticket was from Helsinki-Madrid (one of the only places to get to South America from Europe on the One World ticket). If you got a continent based ticket, you can do unlimited amount of miles, so you have got a much greater chance of getting flights by being able to backtrack a bit overland. Only problem on the continent based ticket would be if you wanted to fit Easter Island in on your way to South America, as that is almost impossible to get to on a continent based fare but is possible with the mileage based ones by getting flights from Auckland-Papeete-Easter Island-Santiago. That whole section isn't possible on the continent based fare.

A trip like yours on a RTW ticket will involve a lot of mucking about with the flights and a lot of back tracking.

check out the one world site
download the time tables which is an adobe acrobat file and also the RTW calculator program. The program is only really any good for checking to see if flights are possible on certain dates, times etc, as the dates only go a month or so in advance. Getting that would help with planning your itinerary a great deal.

Have a great trip when the time comes.

[ Edit: Edited on Jan 8, 2007, at 4:00 AM by aharrold45 ]

4. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3290 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

aharrold is missing an important point in Utrecht's initiary: Utrecht proposes to go mostly overland from Europe to Oz - which is quite possible and my absolute dream trip. In this case you don't need an RTW ticket, as buying the flights as you go will work out cheaper.

You would need with Utrecht's initiary a set of one-way flights. One from the US to europe, one from SE Asia (Singapore or Bangkok) to Oz, one from Oz to either North or South America.

It all depends upon your style of travel, I suppose.

BTW, another great overland route is from Oz via Asia to Europe and then down to South Africa. You would have to fly to Oz from the US and from South Africa to South America. A true rtw trip!

5. Posted by aharrold45 (Travel Guru 1281 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Just a ticket from Australia-South America is almost as much as a cheap RTW ticket, so you'd be extremely dumb to buy lots of one way tickets instead of doing overland travel around a region and then either taking off from a different point of arrival, or going overland and then getting a cheap flight back to the city your RTW ticket departs from if you can't allow a lot of time. A ticet from Australia-North America is still pretty pricey, but jlenigk17 doesn't mention that he/she wants to go to North America, it only mentions Central and South America in that section of the itinerary. So your ticket would be very expensive from Aus-South America or pretty much anywhere-South America even internal flights usually cost a fortune in South America.

6. Posted by t_maia (Travel Guru 3290 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Well, I did a check on prices for my dream rtw trip last year - and for me one-way flights worked out cheaper. But I've got to admit that I had some unusual destinations and lots of overland routes and it did not include South America. But if you want a fairly standard rtw ticket I guess RTW can be a good deal.