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11. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Hello Buzzard

Thanks for the info.
I was in Romania, in 1989, just before the revolution. After the revolution, there were some people who did not like the changes. The whole economic system was uprooted. The people who did not like the changes were older people. This is because their pensions became worthless, with the fall of the old system and they could not benefit, from the new system, because their working days were over.

Why do some people in Myanmar want things to stay like they are?


12. Posted by Budai (Respected Member 506 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

ive just been to myanmar as well, and mel, i think the answer to yr question could be that it has become a reality, a stable one that the burmese have come to accept, as perhaps opposed to political and social instability that inevitably accompanies every attempt at revolution/political change....

but thats not to deny that the reality that they accept is in any humanitarian way, acceptable. having talked to a few burmese over there, some expressed no wish for change and most felt that ot would never happen, citing the Machiavellian governments move of capital up north into a densely forested area as a move to a more defensible location. Universities, eg the Rangoon university that gave birth to burmese nationalism under Thakin Aung San, are built WITHIN lakes to put a lid on the students ability to stimulate/call for political change. Also, from what i saw in the minority regoins eg the karens/chins, military presence in unusually strong to strangle any ethnic nationalism attampts at breakaway at its craddle. And there were many stations to "report foreigners", which puzzled me initially but i later found out this was and is for preventing the formention of dissent or factionalism.

And some burmese do not like aung san - those that zoom around in big 4wds that cost 300,000 USD while the majority struggle to secure 3 meals a day...

13. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Thanks for that information Itenerant.
U seem to know a lot.:) Where did u find it out?


14. Posted by Budai (Respected Member 506 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

err, actually i just talked to the locals there... its not a lot anyway, but i studied burmese political development in my sea studies module so that was the inspiration behind my trip and i tried to explore such issues with the people while being as sensitive as possible...

15. Posted by buzzard (Respected Member 187 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Hi Mel!
I don't think that people in Myanmar necessarily "want" things to stay the way they are right now. I'm sure the majority would love more freedoms, proper democracy, and a different government. But I think a lot of people over there accept the current conditions and see some of the improvements in their country (and yes, some things have gotten better) as progress. They'll take what they can get at this point. The teenagers in the country today have grown up in a different country than their parents, one where "The Lady" has basically been tucked away out of sight for most of the past two decades. They can't remember 1988.
As itenerant noted, it's usually the wealthy people - ones that have benefited from business deals with the current regime and trading with China - that are most satisfied with the way that things are. You can bet all those SUV drivers in Myanmar are very happy with life nowadays. Also, as itenerant wrote, the people living in the more remote minority regions are the ones who suffer the most. They never see tourists, only soldiers. And westerners like us, are not allowed into those "hot spots."
But back to Evelyn's original post, outside of the restricted areas, I can't think of any places to avoid. Some of the more touristy pagodas and sightseeing spots are often overrun by aggressive vendors, but they are easily warded off by a smile and a persistent "No thank you." And around Sule Pagoda in Yangon you will be hounded by money changers. Although they are persistent, they're a harmless bunch.

16. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Itenerent and Buzzard

Would u recommend any web sites, where I could learn more, about what is happening in Myanmar?


17. Posted by Budai (Respected Member 506 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Hi Mel,

for an overview i found wikipedia to be helpful, though i think u probably already know this. The link is

this website is also quite good

other than that i cant really seem to find any websites that offer a good coverage of the political landscape of burma... but i did find a good number of books on burma that are quite good...

[ Edit: Edited on Feb 11, 2007, at 10:55 PM by itenerant ]

18. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Thanks very much intenerent :).
I will take a look at those web sites.


19. Posted by Pati (Full Member 120 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Hi Evelyn!
I went to Myanmar last January and it's absolutely amazing, I really enjoyed the two weeks i was there. I spent 4 days in Inle Lake, 5 days in Bagan, 3 days in Yangon.

I'd really like to have more time to explore more places like Mandalay or the south part. Keep in mind if you travel by bus it'll take lost of hours to go from one place to another, some roads like from Bagan to Inle Lake is very bumpy. Also, be very carefully when you exchange dollar in Yangon.

Good luck!

20. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Thanks Pati! :)

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