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71. Posted by Knuckles200 (Budding Member 5 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

Most under rated. Madrid.
I couldn't believe the amount of things to see and experience.
Bars and restaurants in every corner that close so late.
Clubs the same.
Busiest city I've ever seen at night time.
Most over rated London.
Everything closes early. Why?
Streets are actually quite sedate at night time.
Say 3 am compared to Madrid it's like a cemetery.

72. Posted by Beausoleil (Travel Guru 1866 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

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73. Posted by Utrecht (Moderator 5774 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

Quoting Knuckles200

Most under rated. Madrid.
Bars and restaurants in every corner that close so late.
Clubs the same.
Busiest city I've ever seen at night time.
Most over rated London.
Everything closes early. Why?
Streets are actually quite sedate at night time.
Say 3 am compared to Madrid it's like a cemetery.

Well, if that is your thing, there are quite a few other cities. Nice for the younger crowd, but if you are an old fart like me...why bother with wasting nights and then during the day feeling tired...;)

[ Edit: Edited on 18-Feb-2019, at 01:16 by Utrecht ]

74. Posted by Knuckles200 (Budding Member 5 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

Quoting Utrecht

Quoting Knuckles200

Most under rated. Madrid.
Bars and restaurants in every corner that close so late.
Clubs the same.
Busiest city I've ever seen at night time.
Most over rated London.
Everything closes early. Why?
Streets are actually quite sedate at night time.
Say 3 am compared to Madrid it's like a cemetery.

Well, if that is your thing, there are quite a few other cities. Nice for the younger crowd, but if you are an old fart like me...why bother with wasting nights and then during the day feeling tired...;)

I was pleasantly surprised to see the older crowd joining in so many outdoor activities even late at night.
Or simply strolling or window shopping.
Simple pleasures of life.
I really liked the Spanish lifestyle.
I guess weather plays a big part as well.:)

75. Posted by Andrew Mack (Travel Guru 1037 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

Southern European countries do tend to have afternoon siesta and then come out in the cooler evening/night air, so Madrid isn't unusual from having busy streets late into the night.
It sounds like you didn't find the livelier nightspots in London where it's easy to party through to daylight. Although I'm no longer interested in it and all the places I went to in the 80s and 90s have probably moved, I'm told there are still plenty of places to do that... you just need to be 'in the know' to find them.

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78. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 2331 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

For me, most over-rated has very little to do with whether I enjoyed my visit there. The question is whether the publicity makes you have unrealistic expectations. If you go with the song "I live Paris in the spring time..." etc. it might lead you to have the idea that it ought to be a romantic place. I went to Paris when I was 12 I bought a dress at the Galleries Lafayette, we visit the Louvre at night. I had no expectations of romance or anything else, and I enjoyed myself.

I think a city can be over-hyped and still be fun to visit. I have liked visiting London, and Copenhagen, and Madrid and Venice. In each place I had an idea of what I wanted to see and do, and if I could not do or see those things, I adjusted the plan. I don't worry about whether there is night life, or whether the weather is cloudy (I expect London to be rainy - I am just surprised and pleased when it is good weather) or whether people are rude. Usually if I am nice to people, they are nice to me. If not, I expect that they've had a bad day, and it makes a good story to tell people.

Most of the things that people say that you should see and do in a place are things that are worthwhile to see or do. Whether they are the things that you should see/do is another thing entirely. For instance - in Paris there is the Eiffel Tower. I tried to go up it once in 1964 and only got to the first stage before I had to go back down again because it took so long. I don't think that has changed, and I think that I probably just need to look at it from the ground because the time, energy and money to go up aren't worth it and the views from lower down are better anyway.

Most of the time if photos are restricted, I just don't go to that place as I don't have much fun if I can't take pictures.

I don't just blindly accept all the must-see things that there are in a city. I decide if that's something that I want to do or not, and then go or don't go. If you don't like museums, you probably don't want to spend a day in the Louvre.

The only place I can think of that is over hyped - and I have not been there - is Pisa.

79. Posted by Borisborough (Moderator 1737 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

Quoting greatgrandmaR

In each place I had an idea of what I wanted to see and do, and if I could not do or see those things, I adjusted the plan. I don't worry about whether there is night life, or whether the weather is cloudy (I expect London to be rainy - I am just surprised and pleased when it is good weather) or whether people are rude. Usually if I am nice to people, they are nice to me. If not, I expect that they've had a bad day, and it makes a good story to tell people.

A very positive way to look at things - brilliant!

Quoting greatgrandmaR

For instance - in Paris there is the Eiffel Tower. I tried to go up it once in 1964 and only got to the first stage before I had to go back down again because it took so long. I don't think that has changed, and I think that I probably just need to look at it from the ground because the time, energy and money to go up aren't worth it and the views from lower down are better anyway.

December 2017, we were in Paris for five nights and from the ground it was so cloudy we never saw past the first stage of the Eiffel Tower for the whole of the trip - and it didn't spoil the trip at all (we didn't go up!).

Quoting greatgrandmaR

The only place I can think of that is over hyped - and I have not been there - is Pisa.

Went to Pisa as an afternoon trip from Florence in January 2018, just to see the Leaning Tower - perfect! But then our expectations were not particularly high because we'd been told it was too touristy and over-hyped.

80. Posted by RosoY (Budding Member 5 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

Quoting greatgrandmaR

For me, most over-rated has very little to do with whether I enjoyed my visit there. The question is whether the publicity makes you have unrealistic expectations. If you go with the song "I live Paris in the spring time..." etc. it might lead you to have the idea that it ought to be a romantic place. I went to Paris when I was 12 I bought a dress at the Galleries Lafayette, we visit the Louvre at night. I had no expectations of romance or anything else, and I enjoyed myself.

I think a city can be over-hyped and still be fun to visit. I have liked visiting London, and Copenhagen, and Madrid and Venice. In each place I had an idea of what I wanted to see and do, and if I could not do or see those things, I adjusted the plan. I don't worry about whether there is night life, or whether the weather is cloudy (I expect London to be rainy - I am just surprised and pleased when it is good weather) or whether people are rude. Usually if I am nice to people, they are nice to me. If not, I expect that they've had a bad day, and it makes a good story to tell people.

Most of the things that people say that you should see and do in a place are things that are worthwhile to see or do. Whether they are the things that you should see/do is another thing entirely. For instance - in Paris there is the Eiffel Tower. I tried to go up it once in 1964 and only got to the first stage before I had to go back down again because it took so long. I don't think that has changed, and I think that I probably just need to look at it from the ground because the time, energy and money to go up aren't worth it and the views from lower down are better anyway.

Most of the time if photos are restricted, I just don't go to that place as I don't have much fun if I can't take pictures.

I don't just blindly accept all the must-see things that there are in a city. I decide if that's something that I want to do or not, and then go or don't go. If you don't like museums, you probably don't want to spend a day in the Louvre.

Agreed.

I don't think any city is overrated as is. Sure, some of them may be more of a cliche (such as the obvious Paris or London), but they are popular for a reason. I would never such cities are overrated or overhyped, because I'd say the hype is often worth it. At the end of the day, even such cities offer lots of sights and activities that wouldn't be considered so "mainstream", so everyone can find something to suit them and their needs.