Most overrated city in Europe

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81. Posted by Knuckles200 (Budding Member 5 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

Quoting Andrew Mack

Southern European countries do tend to have afternoon siesta and then come out in the cooler evening/night air, so Madrid isn't unusual from having busy streets late into the night.
It sounds like you didn't find the livelier nightspots in London where it's easy to party through to daylight. Although I'm no longer interested in it and all the places I went to in the 80s and 90s have probably moved, I'm told there are still plenty of places to do that... you just need to be 'in the know' to find them.

There's not much of a siesta culture in Madrid at all.
All shops bar a few traditional ones don't close during the middle of the day like other Spanish towns.
I loved the fact that shops are open till late 7 days a week.
Then there's the tapas bars, cocktail Bars and restaurants that are open till very late.
You also have many after hours clubs that run right through the next day.
And then there's the street life that goes to another level late at night with thousands of outdoor terraces.
I thought Madrid was going to be a sleepy town and then come alive at night.
It's the most 24 hour city I've ever experienced.

82. Posted by MikeBoing (Budding Member 4 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

Personally I find London to be the greatest city in the world and no city I have been to has disappointed me. It's down to you to find out what each city offers, it's not the city that can be disappointing but you, that you fail to find what it can offer!

83. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 2331 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

There are some cities in the US that I find annoying. But since it is my home country, I think I can be critical.

84. Posted by RosoY (Budding Member 5 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

Quoting MikeBoing

Personally I find London to be the greatest city in the world and no city I have been to has disappointed me. It's down to you to find out what each city offers, it's not the city that can be disappointing but you, that you fail to find what it can offer!

This!

85. Posted by Knuckles200 (Budding Member 5 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

Quoting MikeBoing

Personally I find London to be the greatest city in the world and no city I have been to has disappointed me. It's down to you to find out what each city offers, it's not the city that can be disappointing but you, that you fail to find what it can offer!

I believe that thought of train is true up to a point.
But the cities weather, lifestyle and what it has to offer plays a big part.
No matter how much you want to force the situation.
The vast majority of people like warm climes where you can go and shop till late every night.
I'd certainly rather be out on the streets as much as possible enjoying the places that are open till late rather than be indoors.
There's usually a much happier vibe amongst the people in warmer climes.
Surely there's a reason why so many pensioners from colder climes make the move to southern Europe.
I live in Oslo and can tell you no matter how you wish to live your life you will find it boring most of the time.
If you think London is such a great city then that's great.
But it's certainly not a city I wish to live in.
I can think of many others.
Personal opinion.

86. Posted by Andrew Mack (Travel Guru 1037 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

Quoting Knuckles200

If you think London is such a great city then that's great.
But it's certainly not a city I wish to live in.

It's not a great city to live in.
It has far too many people, erratic weather that it's not prepared for, the travel network is inadequate for the numbers using it and it rarely runs close to 'on time'. It's horribly expensive, although it may not look too expensive compared to the even more eye-wateringly expensive Scandinavian countries.

However it has more tourist attractions than most people can visit in their 2+ weeks vacation.
If someone wants to put the time into it then they could easily visit interesting sites for a lot longer than 2 weeks...
If you aren't interested in History, Art, Museums then it's certainly going to be less interesting but for anyone that is, there aren't many cities in the world with anywhere near the same level of history and tourist attractions, but it's not a place many want to live in.
Most of us have to do it for work, but retiring and moving away has made my life so much better.

87. Posted by AndyF (Moderator 2636 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

I think that contrast between visiting somewhere and living there holds true for everywhere. When living there the tourist sights become irrelevant, the environment of the city is still important, and friends and social life become important.

Oslo's a very livable city, I think. I've spent a lot of time there with friends. London is much less attractive to me.

88. Posted by nicfaust (Budding Member 2 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

Hi there. In my opinion, it is Kyiv, Ukraine. I haven't found anything special in this city. It looks the same as other metropolises

[ Edit: Sorry, no promos please. ]

89. Posted by Borisborough (Moderator 1737 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

Quoting Knuckles200

The vast majority of people like warm climes where you can go and shop till late every night.

There's usually a much happier vibe amongst the people in warmer climes.

Personal opinion but I'm not sure that's true - the "most liveable cities" surveys published every year by various companies often list cities in temperate zones amongst the best. As for shopping - I'm convinced there are many people who don't want to shop until late into the night.

Quoting Knuckles200

I live in Oslo and can tell you no matter how you wish to live your life you will find it boring most of the time.

Personal opinion.

This:

Quoting MikeBoing

It's down to you to find out what each city offers, it's not the city that can be disappointing but you, that you fail to find what it can offer!

And then ...

Quoting nicfaust

In my opinion, it is Kyiv, Ukraine. I haven't found anything special in this city. It looks the same as other metropolises

Again, Mike's quote above is apt - having spent a few days in Kyiv in July 2018, I found it a wonderful city with some great buildings and lots to do. "Personal opinion"!

90. Posted by greatgrandmaR (Travel Guru 2331 posts) 3y Star this if you like it!

Maybe it should be a different thread, but I've spend some enjoyable time in cities which are not thought of as being a good place to visit. I spent a week in Marseille some time ago, and it isn't usually listed as a nice place to visit in France. Also I spent some time in Naples which my daughter refused to think of going to and didn't think I should go there either. Now in both cases, I made a series of excursions to nearby places during my visit.

I really liked Barcelona and am not sure why so many people dismiss it as not worth the time (thinking of the thread about how much time to give to three cities - Barcelona, Paris and London). I found Madrid to be less "Spanish" than the towns and cities on the perimeter of Spain. They have the siesta there like they did in Valencia and Granada, but it's at a higher elevation so maybe they don't need it.

I'm also happy to have visited a lot of the places in Europe before the great tourist invasion happened as I was there for the first time in 1950, and then again in 1964.

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