Women (few) behave BADLY !!

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111. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Quoting Isadora

Quoting Mel.

Men commonly believe that the more successful they are materially, the more worthy they are of love.

Mainly because women have manipulated that image. This actually plays to the conditions set forth by women of what they find worthy in a mate/man. If you can not afford me then you don't deserve me. Once a leg of mammoth made women happy because they were able to eat. Prosperity was in the form of who could supply enough food to survive a winter. That has transcended into engagement rings worth 3 month's salary. You want a Barbie wife, you pay for that Barbie wife.

Cosmetics are a vanity issue. Headcovering in a mosque are a religious issue.

So it's all the fault of women !! Ah HA !!! You dirty heathens !!!

112. Posted by Q' (Travel Guru 1987 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Quoting Mel.

I certainly have no argument against what u say about religion saying many good things and giving people hope. That is the positive side of it. If only it did not become corrupted.

Being told what to do and doing it blindly can be very dangerous.
The army(well some armies) is even teaching soldiers that blindly following orders is not acceptable. Apparently, many soldiers during the second world war refused to accept that they were responsible for the war crimes they committed, because they were only following orders.
As for others accepting being told what to do and doing it as a way of life. Everybody has a destination in life, which only they themselves can determine.

That's exactly my point isn't it. It's the "good life". Never said it wasn't bad for the rest of the world.

113. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Q, I am not sure how what u just said relates to my quote.

But yes, it is a good life, in some ways and for some.

114. Posted by SeeTheSky (Full Member 558 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

honestly, while i do agree with respecting other cultures, i also don't agree with subjugating travelers unwillingly to such traditions.

Its one thing if a traveler went into a mosque with her tits popping out and wearing short shorts, but if you're decent looking, but have no face cover, why is it that you're personal choice suddenly becomes nonexistent. If a woman with a face cover came in an American church i would imagine they wouldn't force her to take it off.

being understanding goes both ways. you understand their ways and take a few steps to be decent in their eyes, and they should understand that you have a different culture than they do, and accept that as well.

besides, respect is a matter of personal choice. it has meaning because it is chosen. you can't really force respect lest it no longer be respect, or have the same meaning.

perhaps my more radical side would say that one can wear whatever the hell he or she wants and everyone should respect each other's choices regardless.

hey all,

115. Posted by Mel. (Travel Guru 4567 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Quoting Isadora

Quoting Mel.

Very few religions, if any, respect women.
Is there even one religion in existance, that respects women as being equal to men?

I'm unclear... Please explain how non-Islamic female tourists who are uninformed about or chose to ignore the required head-covering in Mosques equates to religions (Islamic and in general) not respecting women?

Since u say please, I will try my best to explain, using a quote from the following book.
Carrying Linda's Stones
An Anthology of Estonian Women's Life Stories.
The book has more than one Author(I wont bother to list them, unless anybody is particularly interested)
The institutions referred to in the quote are religious, political and some others.

The quote
Gendered institutions are those which purport to be run for the benefit of the whole society but are actually run by men, typically without taking into consideration the interests of women and children. Since these issues are not made explicit, the population is not generally aware of them and often resists changes which would introduce gender neutrality. In Estonia, as in other countries, this resistance is found among both men and women.

[ Edit: Edited on Jul 19, 2007, at 8:11 AM by Mel. ]

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