Planning vs Wingin It

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1. Posted by leedslad82 (Budding Member 48 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!


So I've decided enough is enough of the UK (Can't handle another winter)

& so my option is simple.....go somewhere I've never been before........In reality & by reading these message boards I realise this takes muchos planning,

I realise going down to the STA Travel place & booking a RTW ticket would be the sensible option, I like the idea of getting a 1 way flight.......1st stop being Oz

Would any1 who has done the 'random' Journey recommend it?

Is pre planning the trip something that is likely to work out cheaper? flight fares etc........

Any help would appreciated

(Starting this thread must go down as 'Planning' so I guess I've done a little.......)

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3. Posted by aharrold45 (Travel Guru 1281 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Depending on which countries you choose ie if you are required to get a visa prior to arrival, only having a one way ticket will make it extremely difficult to obtain a visa as most countries that you need to apply for a visa require proof of onward travel. Having said this, if you don't need to apply for the visa and just get one for free on arrival 19 out of 20 times they wont check for onward travel. I think that Australia is likely to be one that will check your ticket and make your life extremely difficult if you are only travelling with a one way ticket without any proof of a flight out to somewhere else unless you were coming on a working holiday visa.

If you had a RTW ticket and had some long stops in places like for example if South East Asia was on your itinerary and you land in Bangkok stop there for 8 weeks (as far as the RTW is concerned). Then in that 8 Weeks travel overland as well as maybe getting some cheap Air Asia flights going through Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and possibly Laos if you have time. By allowing this big space in Bangkok it has allowed you the freedom to move around when you want, but you know that in the end you have go to be timing your overland travels to be back in BKK for your departure date. This sort of thing was acceptable for me to get a Vietnam Visa which required proof of onward travel even though I was entering through Hanoi and departing via a Mekong Delta cruise that took me to Phnom Penh. By me showing that I had a RTW ticket which had many flights after I stated I'd be leaving Vietnam as well as my letter stating my plans, well I was issued the visa.

Another section of my RTW ticket had me landing in Kyiv/Ukraine and departing from Helsinki/Finland. In between I wanted to get the train from Ukraine-Russia and then make up my mind as to where I wanted to see in the Baltics. This area did require some serious planning with the Russia section due to the visa regulations being really difficult, but by adding a few days on to the arrival date of entry to Russia and adding a few to the planned exit of Russia when applying for the visa, I was able to get the visa to allow me some more freedom to move where I wanted when I wanted. To show the proof of onward travel I just showed the flight in to Kyiv and flight out of Helsinki and seeing they could see those flights that was enough for them to realise I was planning on leaving the country.

Openjaw sections of RTW tickets and also using certain places as a hub city whilst allowing a long amount of time to move around wherever is a good way to maximise your freedom to move around at your own liesure whilst still keeping you chances open of seeing almost any country you want. I found that the openjaw one worked well for me and allowed me to see places I hadn't originally thought about. Only time this may be a problem is if you want to visit Saudi Arabia and North Korea in which case you have no chance of going there or if you are planning to be away for more than 12 months, because any international ticket is only valid for a maximum of 12 months from date of original departure.

Pre planning is definitely going to work out cheaper if you plan on flying much other than on a RTW ticket, because airfares are very expensive when you leave it to the last minute to purchase and in some places at certain times budget accommodation can be booked out as much as 6 months in advance. Like Sydney for New Years eve budget accommodation books out at least 6 months (and all around the Christmas/New Years period already has little or no accommodation availability).

Have a wicked trip.

[ Edit: Edited on Sep 7, 2007, at 4:11 AM by aharrold45 ]

4. Posted by leedslad82 (Budding Member 48 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Many Thanks for the Reply,

Well I've 'kind of' made my mind up, my plan thus far is

Mid November Fly from:

London > Hong Kong > Singapore > & into Australia

I'll be getting a WHV for Australia So I could stay & work & from then nothing is planned........

I've priced the flights to get me to to these destinations up at just over £300

How long would you recommend in both Hong Kong ( I'm thinking 4-5 days) & then Singapore? baring in mind I'll be on my lonesome

It's really its just a cheaper way of getting to Oz while taking in some other places I've heard good things about......

5. Posted by aharrold45 (Travel Guru 1281 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

4 or 5 days in Hong Kong would be fine. I spend 4 days and saw pretty much everything of tourist interest around Hong Kong area. When you go there, be sure to go to Kowloon area of Hong Kong after dark (7pm I think it starts) and view the light show that happens with the skyscape of Hong Kong. About the same for Singapore would be good.

6. Posted by Thomasvo (Budding Member 28 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

UK --> Hong Kong
Hong Kong --> Singapore
Singapore --> Australia

All these flights for just £300? That's like 450 euro's...
Are you thinking it'll cost something like that or are you sure? Because it doesn't sound right to me :-)

7. Posted by leedslad82 (Budding Member 48 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Hey Thomasvo,

Well as it goes I've still not booked up so the price is increasing daily, :(

but as I have planned.....

London - Hong Kong £180 - Oasis Hong Kong Airlines

Hong Kong - Singapore £50 - JetStar

Singapore to Darwin - £49 - Tiger Airways

Check it out unless this currency converter I'm using is rubbish & Thats with all taxes included & leaving next month. They're all budget airlines but £280 to get from London to Australia ain't bad in my book......

8. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Hi Leedslad,

If you are going for longer than a year and you don't really have a set route in mind, then I'd say wing it. I looked at all the RTW airfares options myself in the past, and none of them really suited what I had in mind. So, I got on the net and started looking for on-line fares, and I just bought the tickets for each leg of my journey as I went.

It worked out pretty well I have to say and didn't end up costing me much more than a RTW ticket would have. To give you an idea:

The RTW airfare I wanted at the time would have set me back upwards of €3,000. In the end I spent the following on flights by doing it myself:

€118 Shannon to NYC (One way)
US$360 NYC to Lima (On eway)
US$500 Santiago to Easter Island (Return)
€1,000 Rio de J to Auckland NZ (Oneway)
NZ$1,800 Auckland to Shannon via Sydney, Bangkok and London (One way)

Too lazy to do the conversions, there but when you add up those flights they work out more or less the same I think. :)

The obvious plus is that you are as free as the breeze about when to go and where to go. You dont have the hassle of changing dates and routes with airlines. And there;s not too much forward planning involved - it just means keeping an eye on online fares with various airlines, watching when they start to go up etc.

I'm a big advocate of just doing it yourself now. RTW fares are great value its true but depending on what you want from your trip and how long you plan on travelling for.


9. Posted by leedslad82 (Budding Member 48 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!


Yeah,thanks for that......I'm definitely not 1 for planning too far in advance, which I didn't think would work well with planning a RTW trip,

As I'm planning on getting a WHV for Australia I might be there a while, So that should give me ample time to plan my next leg of my journey or whenever my £££ runs out

I'm then hoping to see New Zealand,Fiji,Cook Islands........

Just need to take the plunge & book it then tell my friends & family I'm off in roughly a month from now

10. Posted by samsara_ (Travel Guru 5353 posts) 11y Star this if you like it!

Yeah, then I'd say just book your flight to Oz. Once you get there, you can really cheap flights to NZ with a company called Jetstar, or even occasionally with Quantas or Air NZ.

Air NZ have great online deals to the islands also, so you just just hop over while you're down in that part of the world. :)