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1. Posted by aussie99 (First Time Poster 1 posts) 9y Star this if you like it!

Hey everyone,

I am in the middle of planning my RTW trip scheduled for 2009 or 2010.

I would like to spend roughly 8 - 10 months (thoughts?) travelling through these countries (in order):

Australia (home)
> Thailand (already travelled here - but would like to visit, Koh Samui and Krabi again)
> Hong Kong
> overland to Beijing
> overland to Moscow (trans-mongolian railway)
> overland to Sweden (via St Petersburg and Finland)
> London
> EUROPE (France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Greece)
> New York
> Peru
> Brazil (mainly just Rio)
> Back home to Australia

Firstly, I am unsure what to do for AIRFARES! I have no idea if I qualify for any sort of 'RTW' package?

I also have no idea how long I should travel through Europe (I was thinking maybe 2-3 months - but the price of the Eurail is scary -so, I thought maybe I should take the train to a few countries and then catch the bus the rest of the way (with the odd flights).

Would AUD$15,000 (not including airfares) be enough for all of this? (8-10 months - living rough, hostels, basic foods, etc).

I definitely want to to visit Machu Picchu - should I go overland to Brazil? Is this easy and how long would it take?

Anyway, any help would be appreciated.

Thank you!

[ Edit: Edited on Nov 23, 2008, at 6:23 AM by aussie99 ]

2. Posted by Schof26 (Budding Member 20 posts) 9y Star this if you like it!

This is quite an ambitious undertaking.

Regarding South America:
You are better off flying to Peru than trying to tackle Brazil over land. Brazil is a lot bigger than people realize and a lot of the road and transportation can be quite dodgy.

If you go to Machu Picchu, you'll probably take the Inca Trail. This requires advance notification with an Inca Trail authorized tour company and therefore requires some research.

That's about all I have for now, though I am glad you'll be visiting New York. I presume (and hope) this means NYC. If this is on your itinerary, message me and I'll give you a few points on the city.

Aside from that, make sure all your gear is insured, you are in good shape and you have all your shots!

Be well and have fun!


3. Posted by karlyfu (Budding Member 62 posts) 9y Star this if you like it!

I'm pretty sure you would qualify for a RTW ticket, they allow for overland travel... I don't know about the thailand to hong kong bit- if you did this overland or on a local flight it would work better otherwise you will be heading in two different directions- which they don't allow on RTW tickets.
If that makes absolutely no sense ask STA travel, they are very helpful with the RTW inquiries, or you could investigate one way tix on the internet and add it up.

I did the same countries in Europe in 2 months (not inc Poland but doing Spain and Portugal) and I didn't feel rushed. Pick out the cities/towns you want to go to and set aside how many nights you want in each (like 3 or 4). Obviously you don't have to stick to it perfectly but it's a good start to get an idea. tells us that buying individual tickets are almost ALWAYS cheaper than buying a Eurail pass. seat 61 has all sorts of bits and pieces for you to work out whether its cheaper to buy a pass or not.

If it was me I'd skip Rio and do Machu picchu and Peru only, or visit another place close to Peru, rather than going back over the other side of SA.

for the RTW you could try
SYD - Thailand
overland to London (with lots of awesome travel in between- the trans mongolian sounds fab :)
London to NYC
NYC-Peru (via LA maybe? depending on what airlines are on the RTW ticket)
Then you might have to go Santiago Chile - Sydney... again depending on the airline.

Have fun! hope at least some of that helps.

4. Posted by wanderitch (Budding Member 81 posts) 9y Star this if you like it!

With that amount of cash that seems to be extremely ambitious if not impossible without working along the way.

I would suggest 13 countries in two months is quite ambitious. Ive visited 4 countries in two weeks on a road trip through Europe but that is hectic and it wouldnt be nice to travel at that kind of pace for any longer. A couple of days were just spent on the road for 14 hours.

5. Posted by hey_monkee (Respected Member 430 posts) 9y Star this if you like it!

Have you considered joining a tour of some sort for your European countries? Something like Contiki or Top Deck would allow you to visit all those countries in whatever time frame you have alloted for Europe. Its not exactly independant travel, but I've heard they're a lot of fun, and you'd meet heaps of other solo travellers too and you would have the option of camping tours vs. lodging tours, so you could choose one to suit your budget.

For starters, go to the STA website - they have a create your own RTW function that'll allow you to put your itinerary in and they'll price it for you :)

6. Posted by karlyfu (Budding Member 62 posts) 9y Star this if you like it!

I think AUD 15K is enough.
If you really go cheapest in europe and don't spend as much time there as the cheaper places you'll do it. Its a good idea to do a fairly detailed budget... Especially because you're going to quite expensive countries in Europe.

What I do is write down all the countries I'm going to... then using guidebooks/internet I do a daily budget for the most expensive place (i.e. for Rome if traveling in Italy), including food, bed (pick a more $$ place listed as its inevitable that costs will go up a little before you actually get there), and travel (say a one way train ticket from another place you intend on visiting). Do that for each country, then multiply by the no. of days you plan on spending in each country.
It takes a little while but you read up on the places you want to go as you do it so its worthwhile. Plus it gets you thinking about itinerary etc. By budgeting for the most expensive city it should cover you for unforeseen expenses. If you get really keen you can also look up how much the 'must see' things are (i.e. the Louvre or the Uffizi) and add them onto the daily budget. I find this fun because I discover in some places everything I want to do is free!!

I have a cool map-thing I found online that has one way train prices between cities for all over EU. If you want it send me a message and i'll send it to you.

happy planning