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1. Posted by Drew99 (Budding Member 2 posts) 7y Star this if you like it!

Evening all,

apologies if im recycling posts people have made 10000 times but i only joined this website today.

basically im heading out to australia in July this year and just HATE long haul flights. i want to see a bit more of europe so will train it through europe for a couple weeks, then was thinking maybe egypt? or syria? and gradually make my way to oz.

Im familiar with backpacking scene in south america but have never really back packed through europe. travel wise a euro pass makes the most sense but any tips on good places to stay, places of extreme interest or beauty, good and safe routes through asia once uerope is done etc etc would all be helpfull.

very VERY vague i know but im just trying to get an idea of how best to plan it. will be me or me and a couple mates - they are yet to make up their minds!!!

after oz i need to get to LA to meet a friend but again cant get my head around how to get to that part of the world without a long haul flight.

cheers in advance

2. Posted by Daawgon (Travel Guru 2012 posts) 7y Star this if you like it!

It is next to impossible and certainly much more $$$$$ than air! Why not take a few short hops to LA instead of one long one? If you're in Europe, fly to Iceland, then Canada or the US East Coast, and then California - yes, it will also cost more. Some airlines are quite comfortable these days - I suggest Air New Zealand from LHR to LAX.

3. Posted by flyingbob (Inactive 842 posts) 7y Star this if you like it!

Agreed totally with above.
Look at short flights en-route (of your choice) with air travel agents. Not travel agents - but 'Air' travel agents.
ones that deal only with flights.
It's possible to get a flight from anywhere to anywhere. OK - on many occasions you'll have to change en-route, but that's all the fun of it.
I know where you're coming from though.
Instead of (say) Stansted to K.L. and onward to Oz, you'd prefer (again - just a suggestion) Manchester-Turkey-India-Singapore etc. It can all be done on relatively cheap routes, but takes a lot of planning ahead and of course there is the visa thing to look at to. Can you pass through without one, is there a minimum fee for just a 4 hour stop-over etc.?
One question to ask you is.... Where do you see the line between short-haul and long-haul, with medium-haul in between?

4. Posted by Drew99 (Budding Member 2 posts) 7y Star this if you like it!

Hi Guys

thanks very much for the replies, and yeah i agree with you both.

the main prob is i have to be in oz for a wedding so have no choice but to make it from there to the states. but yeah i didn't think of using india then onto singapore.

i think the only option is as many short flights as possible but then at some point a long haul is innevitable. i'd really struggle with anything over 7 hours, i became the worlds worst flyer after a re directed flight to cuba took 14 hours, i have never been the same since and would do anything to avoid them basically!

flying bob - your right to raise the visa question too, is something i will need to look into.

thanks again and if anything else comes to mind please shout out!