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Kayak the Dnieper/Black Sea: Kiev to Odessa

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1. Posted by TeflonCDN (Full Member 131 posts) 6y Star this if you like it!

I am planning to do this trip in the fall of 2012. As this is not a generic travel question, I am hoping that one of the Travel Helpers for Ukraine can get me in contact with locals who would have some knowledge that would help with this trip.

I am planning to paddle from Kiev to Odessa in about 30 days in September, 2012. I have scouted the entire route using google maps. My impression from the aerial photographs is that there will be lots of islands to camp on in the upper part of the river but such campsites will be rarer once I pass Dnipropetrovsk.

Camping along the river

Is it legal to camp on un-inhabitted islands on the river? In Canada, most of these islands would be Crown Land, belonging to the Government, and camping would be legal and free.

The river below Dnipropetrovsk seems to very developed with lots of farmland or the shores have lots of houses by the rivers edge. Are there likely to be public camp grounds in the small villages/towns? Will farmers allow me to camp at the rivers edge? Is it best to set-up camp and ask for forgiveness later or will that get me arrested?

Black Sea

Given the shape of this body of water, I expect that there will be circular currents... What is the direction of the surface currents between the opening of the Dnieper and Odessa? Will I be fighting a major current? Is a current only present when the wind is blowing? It seems that tides are not a problem in the Black Sea, only 10 cm. Can someone confirm this?

All help appreciated!

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4. Posted by TeflonCDN (Full Member 131 posts) 6y Star this if you like it!

LOL... Only 1 response after 2 weeks and it was probably spam.....

5. Posted by InterprUA (First Time Poster 1 posts) 6y Star this if you like it!

Camping is legal in Ukraine unless its national park or something. It should be displayed by some sort of signs "Палити заборонено" "Не розводити вогонь" "Кемпiнг заборонено" "Запрещено разводить костер". Only the Khortitsa island is the one famous island in Dniper where you can not camp.
Nothing is gonna heppen to you even if you trespass someone's property, we are polite nation, especially to the foreigners. But i strongly recommend to have someone with you who is a native Ukrainian.
I can not say a thing of water currents, but the only thing i know is there are NO TIDES in Black Sea, its situated not in the part of Moon's influence.
I could help you with getting on with this issue, send me a PM, i check it sometimes or better visit my website -snip- and send me an email (i'm not advertising my website, i just dont want to post my email as many spammers will start sending me adverts)
Best Regards, Konstantin.

P.S.: I wonder how all those people posting offers of assistance in Ukraine simply advertising their websites do not bother even to give a simple advice. How poor we become when money takeover the brain. Shame on you, colleagues!

[ Edit: Edited on 23-Feb-2012, at 11:20 by InterprUA (Sorry, no promos please.) ]

6. Posted by dnewton (First Time Poster 1 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Hi. Was wondering if you ever did this trip. I have been thinking about the same idea for summer 2014. I've been in Ukraine for a few years, love it here and also love kayaking. Would be nice to hear from you or anyone else that can add. Thanks.

7. Posted by TeflonCDN (Full Member 131 posts) 4y Star this if you like it!

Sadly, this is still on my list. Personal life has interfered with my best laid plans. Hoping for Fall of 2014 now. I have three options in mind... all about 1000km

Dniper / as above
Wisla / Krackow to Gdansk
Danube (any 1000 km section, but prob near the top of river)