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  • greatgrandmaR 8w

    I did a river cruise this summer and I have written it up. We were there for a couple of days before the other people got there, so this section starts the day that they were to arrive in Paris. It goes from there to Lyon and down the river to Nimes, and then we took a train to Barcelona and flew home from there -

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  • oldie 17w

    Hi. We are doing a Mediterranean cruise this December...can’t wait.


    Oooh which ports of call? What ship? Is it your first cruise?


    It’s our third one. We are doing a 12 Day Mediterranean cruise from Rome. It is the Norwegian Spirit. Then two months with Eurail around Europe. We do this every two years.


    Sounds great. Enjoy your trip!


    Thank you. Cheers

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  • Cafank 28w

    Have only done 3 cruises but I'm hooked and have a Norway/Iceland booked for September. Now I really want to do a Norwegian Star cruise in South America next year, I'll need a cruise buddy for this tho. I'm looking at Buenos Aries - Santiago and then maybe Santiago - Port Canaveral. If anyone thinks they might be interested I'd love to hear from you

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  • greatgrandmaR 30w

    I'm in the process of writing up the cruise I just took.

    I don't know if I will get it done today and tomorrow because I am leaving on another cruise on Wednesday. (A riverboat cruise in France on AmaWaterways












  • averyandsam 45w

    Has anybody done the cruise around the world? It's over 3 months long, and I'm really interested in doing it! I've just started travelling the world permanently, and I'm not sure what I want to do. Also, do any of you have an idea of what romantic cruises me and my husband could go on? I'm thinking maybe Greece?


    Have you ever cruised before? If not try something shorter before committing to something so long. You also have to take into account that Round the world cruise has a lot of sea days. Some people loathe sea days so make sure it is something you would love before going on a RTW.


    I agree with Teoni. Try one first before jumping into a world cruise. I think a river cruise would be romantic - on the Danube maybe. Or if you like dressing up, try first a transatlantic on one of the Queens (QEII or the like)


    We have cruised before, twice actually. We did a 6 Night Nile River Cruise and also this 1 night one on this river in Spain. Is that enough experience for around the world cruise? I'm not sure. Oh, and don't worry both me and my husband love sea days, and I haven't been sea sick my entire life.
    I've added both of you as friends on here if that's okay. I'd love to talk more outside of this group? I have lots of things to discuss which I haven't necessarily found a group for.


    OK - I have done a lot of cruises but not around the world. The longest one was about 3 weeks. Whether one river cruise is enough to know - I don't think so. A river cruise is totally different from the mass market cruises. There is much less chance of rough weather because they are usually in more protected waters. Also the ships are MUCH smaller and with fewer passengers.

    It depends on what cruise line you pick for such a trip and whether it matches your cruising style. I have not done a cruise on the very expensive lines (Silversea) . My son likes Carnival because he's young and they like to party. I personally prefer Holland American or Princess (which are both in the Carnival family). It may be egotistical of me but I suggest you read a few of my blogs to get an idea of what it might be like - which is a riverboat cruise, and contrast with which is an Alaskan cruise on Holland American


    THose links don't work and I can't seem to edit is A Whale of a time in Alaska and is Tulips, Canals and Cheese
    I also have a bunch of others - Circling Australia, Disappointing DIsney, Back and Forth through the Panama Canal, and Mediterranean Spring Break.


    A river cruise is no comparison to an ocean cruise. When I say at sea days I am referring to days you never set foot on land so you are completely reliant on the ship's offering for how to fill your days which is why for any long cruise you need to know what type of ship and cruise style you would enjoy for when you can't leave the ship. So start with something shorter and figure out the type of cruiser you are before you commit a quarter of your year to one ship.


    Wow thanks you guys for the great info. I think we're going to do a 2 night Cruise in Greece in April. I'm going to message you guys privately about companies ect.


    I leave Thursday for Brisbane, Australia, to board Holland America's Maasdam for a six-week cruise to several South Pacific islands before winding up in San Francisco. It's my initial visit to the region so I thought a cruise might be a cost-effective way to get a glimpse of places such as New Caledonia, Vanuatu, Fiji, Tonga, the Cook Islands, the Society Islands and the Marquesas. You don't have to go on a traditional cruise. There are some excellent ferries, such as the one along the Chilean coast (following part of the route of Magellan and Darwin) and the one from Dakar to Ziguinchor, Senegal, on the Aline Sitoe Diatta.

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  • greatgrandmaR 48w

    I've just read an article by Rick Steves called "The pros and cons of cruising in Europe.
    1) Cost beats independent travel by a mile - can be as little as $100/person per night.
    2) Cruising can accommodate family with different travel goals - you can tour all the museums or hang out by the pool
    3) Cruise are good for people with limited mobility - no packing and unpacking
    1) He thinks that cruising insulates you from Europe. (I think this comes under different cruising goals, and I think you do not have to let this happen if you don't want it to)
    2) Cruising contributes to polution - but technology and consumer pressure are helping with this.
    3) Cruise ships can overwhelm a port with sightseers


    I think the argument for cost doesn’t stack up today as it might have once did. Yes in some cases it does beat independent travel but I think there far too many variables to make such a blanket statement.

    While there are some pretty cheap Mediterranean cruises but they are usually in large ships that have limited ports they can stop at therefore limiting sightseeing opportunities. Smaller ship cruises can stop at more places but the cost starts to go up and river cruises as a whole are not particularly cheap though they do include a lot of excursions and activities but if you opt out of a lot of the included extras then it might be cheaper to travel independently.

    You also have to look at the fact that independent travel costs have dramatically decreased. Intercontinental flights are cheaper than they have ever been, with AirBnb style accommodation that has also decreased costs and with such accomodations there has been an increase in access to kitchens which is why you have the rise of cooking your own meals while travelling which then decreases the cost of food. If you include the cost of flights to Europe and then look at sightseeing opportunities for the same amount of travel time in the two different travel styles cruises may not be as cost effective as they seem on face value not to mention one has to consider the size of the group you are travelling with. If you travel in a group of three one person inevitably ends up paying single supplement on a cruise in which case it might have been cheaper to share the cost of independent travel.

    As for the cons while cruise ships get a bad rap with the environment most environmentalists agree the biggest destructive force is actually the freight ships since they out number cruise ships by about ten to one. But either way none of that beats the plastic problem =P. However the overwhelming of ports is definitely a big issue especially in the Mediterranean. I feel like maybe it might be time to seriously look at quotas which is something that has already been done at many popular tourist destinations around the world. The reality is as travel costs go down and people’s personal wealth increases there is only going to be more tourists in the world.


    I took his word for it about the costs because he should know about that. He thought it would be hard for a couple to stay on the Riviera or in Rome or Venice or Copenhagen etc. for less than $200 a day for room and meals and transportation. It would be far more than that for a trip to St. Petersburg Russia when you figure in the cost of the visa. Also I assume he is comparing the cost of the cruise with the cost of a tour group which moves from country to country on land, or an independent traveler who stays one or two days in each place where transportation cost would run up the bill.

    I don't think international flights are particularly cheap from the US, but that's really irrelevant since the cruise ship passengers typically fly to Europe to get on the cruise. I see very few people on cruise ships who pay the single supplement and those people are, as a rule, people who stay on the ship because they like the ship - they are not tourists. Or else they are children who stay with their parents. There are quite a few rooms on cruise ships that have space for three or four people.


    When I travelled as part of a couple to the Riviera and Copenhagen we easily spent less than $200 a night without slumming it. And in terms of value for money we probably saw and did more activities than the average cruise ship passenger. I have travelled independently around Europe quite a bit and have been able to keep costs below $200 a day and if travelling with other people you can split certain costs making it even cheaper per person. On the really cheap cruises you have to pay extra for most excursions and activities also adding to the cost. While there are many benefits to European cruising I just don't think the cost difference is big enough to really be considered an argument for cruising.

    I haven't been on a Europe cruise so I was assuming single supplement was the same as a Pacific cruise. There were a lot of single travellers and people in odd number groups where someone ended up paying single supplement.


    There are single supplements, but mostly either non-related people room together or else if there are more than two of them, they get a cabin for three. People do try to avoid the single supplement.

    I have not really traveled as a couple to Europe for some time. Back in 1964, I met my husband at several ports and we stayed together at fairly cheap hotels, but that was when there were books titled "Europe on $10/day". We went to England together in 2015 but I am pretty sure that we spent more than $200 a night because for one thing we flew First Class from the US to England - I am no longer willing to spend the night sitting up on a plane, and my husband is even less capable than I am. (I don't tell him how much I spend because he would think it was too much). We rented a car in each place and stayed at B&Bs but I think with the air fare it would be more than $200/night.

    I have been on 7 trips with a grandchild (just the two of us). Five of those trips were cruises, but we flew over and spend a couple of days at the city of embarkation before the cruise. Two of the trips were land based. One was a bus tour of Ireland, and the other was an African safari. The cruises were cheaper and much easier for me.

    On what you call the 'cheap cruises' there are plenty of activities that do not cost extra. We play trivia - not bingo. We don't drink, so we don't pay extra for alcohol or specialty coffees. The last cruise we were on we had so much on board credit that we had to go to the casino and play the slots a little bit in order to cash out the on board credit as the only thing I bought on board was the internet until the last day when I bought a t-shirt from one of the shops.

    We have been on a river cruise, which is a bit more expensive, and all the excursions are included in the cost. Also there are less people on each one of the boats. I'm going to take one of my granddaughters on another river cruise in June. The hotel we stay at before the cruise in Paris is over $300 each. I don't expect that it will be worth it, but I have not been to Paris since 1964 and I'd like to spend some time there, but I don't want to pack and unpack any more than a couple of times.